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    Default Re: 2020/2021? off season

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxb2cdx2

    This trade works. Hernangomez and Ed Davis could work too . Throw in whatever picks and non guaranteed/partial contracts to make everyone happy.

    James Johnson starts at the 4. Spellman is good. He and Reid, Hernangomez, Niang, Morgan and Brantley could fight for back up minutes behind Johnson
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    Still, if he can demonstrate that he can rebound, defend, and shoot against NBA competition, he could be joining fellow draftee Oni on the Jazz’s roster next season.
    He should be fighting for a rotation spot

    An explosive athlete, Tucker impressed enough with the G League’s Wisconsin Herd to entice Jazz executive Vice President Dennis Lindsey to move on from Green and then to offer a full NBA roster guarantee in order to win the bidding war for Tucker’s services. Once he got here … well, it’s be charitable and say it was a mixed bag. While he impressed coach Quin Snyder with his aggressiveness on defense, he was slower to acclimate to the team’s motion offense, and never really did find his 3-point stroke at the NBA level (he made only 3 of 17 tries). He seems sure to get a training camp invite, but nothing’s guaranteed beyond that.
    high energy defender with size and scoring ability

    The second of Utah’s second-rounders last season, the Jazz signed the scoring sparkplug out of Hofstra to their other two-way deal, then primarily deployed him to the G League, with the hope that he could develop his court vision and become more of a playmaker at the NBA level, given that his physical limitations would preclude him from scoring as well against improved competition. However, while he showed he could score at the G League level (17.3 ppg, 40.3% on 3s), his passing never really took a step forward. Further, in his sparing opportunities to play with the Jazz, he demonstrated the exact shooting struggles they feared. Given their second-round investment, he could get another two-way deal, but it’s hard to envision anything more.
    not hard to envision. He can score. Rather have him than Clarkson

    displayed many of the same limitations that were shown years before, posting a 92 offensive rating and a 108 on defense
    He only got quality minutes in 1 game! Not sure he is an NBAer but he's a good pg. Maybe a 3rd pg?

    Need a starting PF! Need more size! Need more D! Need for depth. I can see all if the rookies around depending on if they fix other parts of the roster

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    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2...azz-have-some/

    On the easy side of the ledger — Donovan Mitchell will get a maximum contract extension the moment it’s allowed. Zero question. The only issue is how many years he’ll sign for. Similarly easy — they’ll make a substantive offer to sixth-man flamethrower Jordan Clarkson. Whether he ultimately accepts is up to him, as an unrestricted free agent; but given that their cap situation is such that losing him would mean not being able to replace him, they have no motivation not to go hard in trying to retain him.
    the motivation would be that he thinks he's the number 1 option. He needs to go!!!

    In the summer of 2019, the trade for Mike Conley and the free-agent signings of Bojan Bogdanovic, Ed Davis, Jeff Green and Emmanuel Mudiay were collectively thought to have given Utah unprecedented levels of experience and talent. And yet, by the end of the season, they had six rookies among their 17 signed players (15 on the NBA roster, plus two signed to two-way contracts).
    and no PF! Deep! Sign Favors!

    The last of the Jazz’s trio of 2019 second-round picks immediately showed himself to be the most NBA-ready of them, and as a result was the only one to get the immediate NBA deal. Though the remaining two years of his contract contain zero guaranteed money, he is an absolute lock to be back with the team next season. No, his league numbers weren’t anything special (3.5 points, 1.7 rebounds, 36.8 3P%), he showed flashes of 3-and-D potential. The coaching staff also feels like there’s some untapped playmaking ability there. In short, if he can develop a more consistent outside stroke, he’ll be a rotation guy.
    He didn't show that. He made the roster because Brantley got hurt. Brantley was first team all Gleague. Tucker and Morgan played rotation munytes. He's somewhere in the top 4 with those guys

    Morgan impressed in redraft workouts, in Summer League play, in training camp, and then in the G League, enough so that he earned a promotion to the Jazz roster and even wound up in the starting lineup in the team’s first-round playoff series vs. Denver while Mike Conley was out. Though he’s a restricted free agent, it’s perhaps not hard to envision him back given that Quin Snyder seemed to trust him above fellow young big Tony Bradley late in the season. Plus, he showed flashes of 3-point capability. Then again, given that he’s pretty limited at the four spot, his return may only really make sense if Utah finds a way to move on from Bradley and/or Davis.
    He didn't trust him more than Bradley! Bradley isn't a 4. Morgan played some small ball 5. His return makes lots of sense. What makes him linited? He does a lot of things and at least has the body for it unlike the the guys playing there instead of him. Thought he had a non guaranteed deal though?

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-...g-staff-sixers

    Have we hired anyone
    To replace Walt Perrin?
    He seemed to have a very important job especially during draft time. Vice President of Player Personnel.


    Posted by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2020 | 7:25 PM
    Do they need to? They have several GM's on staff

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/20...sej-pokusevski

    The Utah Jazz could certainly use a highly versatile two-way player to fit in at power forward. If they’re looking for an immediate contributor, Pokusevski may not be the way to go. He’s a long-term project who’s best years may not line up with the Donovan Mitchell/Rudy Gobert timeline.


    If they're looking for an immediate contributor they're dreaming!
    All said and done he would be fantastic for a team that doesn’t need his services for a while. Let him develop and work on his body. He could be really good later on.

    Posted by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2020 | 5:41 PM
    yep he's more of a 4 though. Need a 5

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    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...In-Free-Agency

    I'd think he'd get more than that. Detroit should pay more. If the Jazz can get him for that they probably should!

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    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2...eres-why-utah/

    “It potentially allows them to re-sign Jordan Clarkson with Bird Rights, add another free agent with their full midlevel exception, use their biannual exception, and trade Ed Davis and one of their other fungible contracts for another player … all while staying below the tax,” Hollinger wrote. “For a Utah team undone in the playoffs by a severe lack of quality depth, this path has to be somewhat tempting.”


    but you still have the same problems as last year!

    Meanwhile, if Conley opts in, and the Jazz guarantee the salaries of Georges Niang, Miye Oni and Nigel Williams-Goss, they’ve already got roughly $118M committed. And that’s before they even get to a new deal for Clarkson … or retaining the likes of intriguing young guys like Juwan Morgan or Rayjon Tucker. And then we still haven’t got to the salary they’d owe their first-round draft pick, et cetera. Meanwhile, adding players via the midlevel and biannual exceptions could be another $12M or so combined on top of that.

    Brantley? the all G leaguer?

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/10/17/2...-bey-villanova

    A modern 3 point wing threat

    need a center than a pg!

    Bey’s greatest strength is his immediate ability to contribute on the offensive end. He rates very highly in nearly every type of offensive play, scoring 1.099 points per possession (PPP), 96th percentile in the NCAA. His amazing shooting numbers – 45.1 percent from deep on 5.6 attempts – are fantastic, averaging 1.463 PPP on catch and shoot attempts this past season, good enough for 98th percentile. In the video above, you can see great movement off of screens and off-ball to get into good positioning, and consistent (if a bit strange-looking) form when open and when free. Even if his free throw percentage would indicate a drop in accuracy when translating to the NBA, look for him to be an excellent contributor.

    Highly unlikely that he contributes immediately. Only Mitchell has been close but keep saying it anyway!

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/20...ul-reed-depaul

    Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 next June), 6’9” with a 7’2” wingspan, 216 pounds

    small ball 5. Not what they need

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    https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/...21-warriors/2/

    no mention of Gobert or a PF. Chris Paul?

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    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/5-nba-t...163613460.html

    Thunder trade Chris Paul to the Jazz for Mike Conley, Ed Davis and a lottery-protected first round pick
    While many are trying to find ways to get Paul on the Sixers, Bucks or Lakers, it is hard to see those deals happening when you really look at the roster and how the pieces would match. Maybe the Sixers could swing it, but this deal may make more sense as it would likely vault the Jazz up into the upper echelon of the West while getting the Thunder another first round pick in their effort to collect as many of them as possible.
    OKC would also get a two-way guard in Conley, who comes off the books after next season (one year before Paul). And Davis would give them another rebounder when last season they were dead-last in offensive boards. The Thunder would set themselves up to be a good team with tons of picks and cap room to spare, the ideal tool set for GM Sam Presti to build his roster with.
    Thunder should be giving up the pick for getting out of that contract. No thanks!

    need a PF!!!

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    https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/...a-timberwolves

    The main deal they talked about was the Jazz sending Gobert and the 23rd pick in this year’s NBA draft to the Minnesota Timberwolves for the first overall pick and James Johnson and Jake Layman to make the contracts work.

    good luck with that! Trade the unquestionable 3rd most important person in the franchise's history. Going to be hard to get your money's worth

    Both Simmons and Lowe noted the deal would allow the Jazz to fully commit to building around Mitchell. Said Simmons: “My trade presumes the Jazz are like, ‘We hit a wall. We cannot win the title with this team and we have no way of making this team better.’”

    fully committed to tanking. Might as well get a new front office and coach if you're going there again

    Lowe said he hadn’t thought of trades involving Gobert for the No. 1 pick, and added “the problem” he kept having trying to construct trades for the Frenchman is leaving Utah without a starting center (Simmons noted the Jazz could select big man James Wiseman with the No. 1 pick).

    they'd have Bradley and 6 rookies. Perfect for tanking. Have to trade Conley, Bojan, Davis and Ingles as well

    After that discussion, Simmons and Lowe briefly spitballed a few other Gobert-centric trade ideas. Simmons proposed Gobert to the Golden State Warriors for the No. 2 pick in the draft and Andrew Wiggins, but then said, “I think (the Warriors) hang up.” Lowe said, “I don’t know. That’s a good one.”

    the Jazz hang up. That would clinch the title for GS

    Simmons proposed Gobert to the Indiana Pacers for Myles Turner and Aaron Holiday, but Lowe didn’t like it for the Pacers because they have big man Domantas Sabonis and are dealing with the situation the Jazz once had with both Gobert and Derrick Favors as two big men on the roster.

    except Sabonis is a star that can space the floor

    Lowe said he tried to make a deal sending Gobert to the Sacramento Kings for Harrison Barnes “and a lot of other stuff,” and Simmons countered wondering if Buddy Hield could be sent to Utah instead.

    I'm sure he could. Jazz are tanking so who cares who it is!

    Simmons and Lowe also discussed one other significant trade idea involving the Jazz, one that Lowe said a team executive pitched to him. The proposal saw Utah send point guard Mike Conley to the Detroit Pistons in exchange for Blake Griffin and Derrick Rose.

    Griffin makes a lot of sense offensively but those injuries are scary!

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    Default Re: 2020/2021? off season

    https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/20...art-washington

    Physical: 19 years old (turns 20 next May), 6’9” with a 7’4” wingspan, 250 pounds

    now that's more like it. A rim protector

    He was talking about Danilo Gallinari, and thought he might go to the best team out there to offer him the MLE. I hadn’t thought of him as a MLE option because I thought he’d get more, but considering the market, his age, and his injury history, he probably won’t. That totally changes my top targets in FA.
    My new dream scenario for this offseason:
    - Draft Josh Green or Xavier Tillman
    - Let Clarkson and Mudiay walk, waive NWG
    - Sign Gallo to the MLE
    - Try to sign Favs to the BAE, if he doesn’t agree to that, go for Baynes, Noel, or Thompson.
    - Try to trade Davis into somebody’s cap space by attaching a 2nd. If that can be done, sign Juwan Morgan and Jarrell Brantley
    - Get JWF on a two-way contract again along with anyone that catches the scouting team’s attention.
    This leaves the roster at:
    Conley
    Mitchell
    O’Neale
    Bogdanovic
    Gobert
    Ingles
    1st round pick (Green or Tillman hopefully)
    Gallinari
    Niang
    Favors (or a different backup C
    Bradley
    Oni
    Morgan
    Tucker
    Brantley
    Wright Foreman (2-way)
    ? (2-way)

    Posted by cchappell18 on Oct 21, 2020 | 4:30 PM
    offensively Gallinari fits. The D needs to get better too though

    Open to Mudiay and Goss being back. At least use Goss' contract

    Keep Bradley. Cheap and improving. If he's not playing trade him

    Morgan already signed. Brantley should be regardless

    1st round pick should be a Star not in the rotation whomever it is

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    Default Re: 2020/2021? off season

    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2...ba-mock-draft/

    Dennis Lindsey said he’s on the lookout for anyone who can defend their position well without compromising spacing. Green has the size at 6-6, 210 to defend wings, but the quickness and agility to switch onto guards. His offense needs more work, but he’s solid at spot-up 3s.

    I'd say a wing is the last place I'd look with Oni, Tucker and Brantley. Need a 5 and than a 1

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