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Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by 1-9ball
peak lebron is an inferior scorer to peak Wade, Kobe or Vandeweghe or tons of guys
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Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by 3ball
He's not even close to the #2 scorer because he holds the ball 12 minutes a game (4 minutes for kd and kawhi)
And anyone that can't shoot pull-ups, contested jumpers or simply has weak jumpshooting skill isn't a great scorer...
For example, Wade scored better than lebron ever did in the 06' Finals... Ditto Durant in 2017.. peak lebron is an inferior scorer to peak Wade, Kobe or Vandeweghe or tons of guys
You do know that LeBron has several series in which he scored more than Wade in '06 and Durant in '17, right? Of course you do, you just ignore it, 'cause you're a mouth breathing retard.
As for the bolded, go drink bleach.
Originally Posted by Bronbron23
Not the second greatest winner though. He's gonna get his points. He's a beast and he has the ball in his hands alot. Its a given.
MJ is literally the only other player who has at least 4 MVP's and 3 FMVP's. "nOt A wInNEr dOe!!!11".
LeBron is the #2 GOAT and it's pretty much consensus now. You kids have to just deal with it.
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NBA Superstar
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Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Lol this is really where Lebron hatre is going? He makes the smart basketball decision and that is a bad thing?
I guess it is smarter than "stats don't matter" and "his team carried him to all his titles."
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Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by SATAN
LeBron's first points vs Rockets=contested jumper.
LeBron's game sealing last shot=mid range fade away.
Nail in coffin
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by SATAN
LeBron's first points vs Rockets=contested jumper.
LeBron's game sealing last shot=mid range fade away.
These people don't watch the games. They are the same people that think a player who has scored 40 points in 27 playoff games and averages 29 ppg in the playoffs isn't a great playoff scorer.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by BigtimeNBAFan
These people don't watch the games. They are the same people that think a player who has scored 40 points in 27 playoff games and averages 29 ppg in the playoffs isn't a great playoff scorer.
OP (1-9ball) has admitted he hasn't watched a NBA game since 2011 yet he comes in with daily comments on players he has never seen play (e.g., Davis, Middleton, George, Butler as recent examples) or games and series he hasn't watched.
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NBA All-star
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
35.8/13.3/8.8 on .398/.310/.687 says otherwise.
went 2-4 as a 53-29 team against a 67-15 team on the finals
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Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by 3ball
NBA.com... 94% of Lebron's shots outside of 10 feet are either "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet), compared to 77.1% for Harden, 82.0% for Bradley Beal, 77.8% for Kawhi, and 66.6% for KDGoat (in 2019).
So his peers take 3-6 times as many contested jumpers.. this shows a massive lack of jumpshooting skill compared to his peers.
There's no defense for guys hitting contested jumpers, so they require double-teams - Lebron doesn't even attempt contested jumpers, so that explains why he doesn't get doubled.
LeBron's peers are not as intelligent as he is.
LeBron doesn't get double teamed because he kills doubles with his passing. He always finds the open teammate. So teams avoid that and choose to double his sidekick who they think they can have more success disrupting.
Last edited by light; 09-07-2020 at 03:30 AM.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by light
LeBron doesn't get double teamed because he kills doubles with his passing. He always finds the open teammate. So teams avoid that and choose to double his sidekick who they think they can have more success disrupting.
He is one of the greatest passers and greatest in basketball IQ--yet 1-9ball wants to double him so he can kill defenses with his passing?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
He is one of the greatest passers and greatest in basketball IQ--yet 1-9ball wants to double him so he can kill defenses with his passing?
Bro stfu spouting that ESPN bullshit
Lebron is NOT a smart basketball player..
He employs the simplest and most losing brand of basketball - ball-domination.. its an aau or playground brand of ball.. consequently, he fields low-assist teams that get destroyed in the championship.. lebron gets 13 assists, while the team has 16 and gets massively out-assisted in the championship.. that's NOT smart basketball bro, and it requires extra talent to win and offset the weak ball movement.
So he doesn't play smart, and therefore loses to teams that he should be beating - teams he was favored or even money against (09', 10', 11', 14').. and he had enough help in 17' - there's no excuse to not win or at least be competitive with Kyrie, Love and tons of vets
He underachieves his supporting talent because he employs a dumb, losing brand.. he literally holds the ball 12 minutes per game and people wonder why he's 3/9 in the championship... :.. people (like you) are amazingly dumb about the game and think that a losing brand is infact "smart" and a genius way to play.. it's literally the DUMBEST way anyone can play
And why can't lebron have high-assist teams that play a great brand? It's due to a SKILL DEFICIT... Lebron can't shoot and lacks an assisted skillset (off-ball feetwork and shooting touch).. so lebron is a big dude, but he's dumb, lacks key skills and is easily beatable like Goliath
Last edited by 3ball; 09-07-2020 at 12:03 PM.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
You haven't watched the guy play since Obama's first term yet are talking about him every day.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron avoids contested jumpers
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
You haven't watched the guy play since Obama's first term yet are talking about him every day.
A smart person can figure him out without watched him... Based on stats:
Historically, lebron starts at SF, but then he becomes a 2nd point guard once the game starts - these 2 point guard lineups give teammates less time with the ball and assists then they get in traditional 1-PG lineups.. lower teammate assists results in low TEAM assists and a weak ball movement brand that gets massively out-assisted in the championship..
Ultimately, Lebron's ball-dominance turns teammates into highly-assisted play-finishers, which doesn't develop teammates, thus requiring ready-made stars acquired via team-hopping/colluding/cheating
^^^ these are all statistical or historical facts... Again, this is literally the dumbest way to play.. lebron's 2 point guard approach has been a massive hemorrhage for all his teams (hampering brand), thus requiring extra talent (team-hopping) to win..
Ultimately, the forward position is a normally high-assisted position... Lebron turns it into a low-assisted position, thereby lowering the assist capacity of the team (low assist teams)
It's super-duper dumb... AAU shit in the NBA
Last edited by 3ball; 09-07-2020 at 12:42 PM.
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