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    Default What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say that..

    MJ/Kobe would be the best players BY FAR, because no one made anywhere near the jumpshooting variety or VOLUME that they made.. they could average 30+ by shooting all jumpers, while guys with poor jumpshooting skill (lebron) would average maybe 10 ppg or less.

    both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons
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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Cool story bro

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    yes yes quite true OP




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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    What if they didnt have to?

    Oh, it would just be the NBA?

    Thanks bye

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    yes yes quite true OP




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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    At least that settles LeBron > AD

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Wtf is this bullshit?

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.

    No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by NBAGOAT View Post
    The answer to this is dirk but guessing you didn’t watch him either. No one took such a high amount of jump shots on his accuracy and he had 3 pt range too.

    No offense to Kobe but there are multiple stars better than him at jumpshooting. Kd is an obvious choice clearly better at it. Ofc idk if you’ve watched kd either
    OP had admitted he hasn't watched an NBA game in 10 years

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally450 View Post
    Cool story bro
    Effective FG% on all jumpshots for Curry, MJ, Lebron


    .................eFG% All Jumpshots

    Lebron 2004: 35.6%, 324/998
    Lebron 2005: 39.9%, 400/1136
    Lebron 2006: 41.7%, 423/1166
    Lebron 2007: 39.5%, 372/1066
    Lebron 2008: 39.4%, 338/1001
    Lebron 2009: 42.2%, 366/1024
    Lebron 2010: 43.4%, 356/970
    Lebron 2011: 45.4%, 393/968
    Lebron 2012: 43.7%, 290/726
    Lebron 2013: 49.0%, 333/784
    Lebron 2014: 47.0%, 288/736
    Lebron 2015: 43.1%, 280/788
    Lebron 2016: 39.0%, 181/543

    Bryant 2000: 38.5%, 328/851
    Bryant 2001: 43.0%, 460/1141
    Bryant 2002: 41.8%, 478/1184
    Bryant 2003: 44.1%, 597/1494
    Bryant 2004: 40.3%, 282/787
    Bryant 2005: 43.5%, 346/947
    Bryant 2006: 46.5%, 709/1724
    Bryant 2007: 46.7%, 556/1358
    Bryant 2008: 44.6%, 468/1217
    Bryant 2009: 45.0%, 519/1285


    Jordan 1997: 51.2%, 727/1528


    Currry 2015: 56.0%, 424/1029
    Currry 2016: 62.9%, 389/847



    both MJ/Kobe made over 700 jumpshots in their peak seasons - that's 250 more than lebron or curry's highest volume seasons, and at an efficiency that exceeded lebron's best jumpshooting seasons

    btw, Lebron shoots worse at higher volume, while Kobe/MJ maintain their efficiency because they're simply much better jumpshooters (greater jumpshooting repertoire - they can get jumpers off in many more ways with greater accuracy)

    Infact, their volume and greater contested shooting ability makes them better jumpshooters than Curry

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatCoolKid View Post
    What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatCoolKid View Post
    What if the players just played basketball normally? Oh, Lebron is the GOAT? K thx.
    only jordan was a goat driver and goat jumpshooter.. ONLY jordan has this.. so no

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip.
    my arguments are unaffected by Lebron's 4th ring and infact become more relevant

    he'll always have a skill restriction to ball-domination, so he can never play the best brand that dominates the championship level.. ultimately, his skillset turns teammates to play-finishers, which doesn't develop brand or young players, thus forcing him to team-hop for ready-made stars.. that's sad and not even top 10, let alone #2..

    essentially, his lack of jumpshooting skill prevents him from playing the off-ball "shooter" role, thus keeping him on-ball and hogging the passing duties (low assist teams and low ball movement brand that goes 4/10 on the championship level)

    so get ready for people to do more deep dives and my arguments to become more standard.. lebron will never be goat because the facts and his skills don't support it

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