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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    And?

    If players were only allowed to shoot transition 3's from the logo then LeBron would be the winner.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    I almost wish MJ would come out of retirement and sign with the Lakers or something and have some team success without Pippen so MJ stans don't have to be forever insecure about Pippen.

    LeBron: 7 conference finals, 5 (6?) NBA finals without Wade
    Jordan: 10 playoff game appearances, 1 playoff win without Pippen

    That is what it boils down with insecure MJ stans. Their hero literally quit as reigning MVP rather than play without Pippen and Jackson. LeBron in that situation would either make it work in Chicago or go to another team and get to the finals there.
    Devastating

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post

    That is what it boils down with insecure MJ stans. Their hero literally quit as reigning MVP rather than play without Pippen and Jackson. LeBron in that situation would either make it work in Chicago or go to another team and get to the finals there


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    lebron hops onto the league favorite (11', 15', 20') - he doesn't build champions like MJ did

    MJ didn't want to start over building another dynasty from scratch at 35 years old, so he retired.. I'm sure if the bulls had acquired Duncan, MJ might've reconsiders since MJ/Duncan would be repeat champs instantly - no building required.. and that's the path lebron takes - he doesn't build anything - he plays on Year 1 favorites (easiest path possible)
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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    lebron hops onto the league favorite (11', 15', 20') - he doesn't build champions like MJ did

    MJ didn't want to start over building another dynasty from scratch at 35 years old, so he retired.. I'm sure if the bulls had acquired Duncan, MJ might've reconsiders since MJ/Duncan would be repeat champs instantly - no building required.. and that's the path lebron takes - he doesn't build anything - he plays on Year 1 favorites (easiest path possible)
    bran looking at mjs numbers like




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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    This guy is increasingly losing it. LeBron 7 wins away from another chip.
    Yeah this is a weird thread. Different players have different skillsets. Shaq is one of the best players of all time and surprise surprise he didn't become one of the greats shooting jumpers.

    And I keep telling them to wait before melting down. I think Lebron gets it done, but a lot of work left.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    lebron hops onto the league favorite (11', 15', 20') - he doesn't build champions like MJ did

    MJ didn't want to start over building another dynasty from scratch at 35 years old, so he retired.. I'm sure if the bulls had acquired Duncan, MJ might've reconsiders since MJ/Duncan would be repeat champs instantly - no building required.. and that's the path lebron takes - he doesn't build anything - he plays on Year 1 favorites (easiest path possible)
    MJ didn't build a championship team. Jerry Krause did. And Lebron left a team in the Finals to go to a mess in LA. Even this year, all you guys were saying the Clippers would beat the Lakers. It has only been the last week that you have switched to "easy title for Lebron since AD is Kareem and Rondo is incredible." You guys certainly weren't saying this all year.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by BigtimeNBAFan View Post
    MJ didn't build a championship team. Jerry Krause did. And Lebron left a team in the Finals to go to a mess in LA. Even this year, all you guys were saying the Clippers would beat the Lakers. It has only been the last week that you have switched to "easy title for Lebron since AD is Kareem and Rondo is incredible." You guys certainly weren't saying this all year.
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    2011 Pre-Playoffs... Heat

    2015 Preseason...... Cavs
    2015 Pre-Playoffs... Cavs

    ^^^ Year 1 favorite = easiest path possible

    Year 1 favorite is obviously easier than developing favorite status over several years like MJ and others did

    Actually, the only easier path would be acquiring Tim Duncan, aka AD... if timmy is your frieking SIDEKICK, how could you lose?.. heck, Kawhi only needed to average 16 to win with a 2-way presence like Duncan... lebron is doing the same in Game 1, where he won easily while scoring 15

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by BigtimeNBAFan View Post

    MJ didn't build a championship team. Jerry Krause did.

    it isn't impressive GM'ing to assemble a team that requires the #1 option to average 5 more than everyone in playoff history

    and win every title as scoring champ

    and double his sidekick's scoring average while assisting 33% more often and getting more dpoy votes every year

    that is NOT good GM'ing or an optimally-built team

    btw, jordan developed the bulls' execution of the triangle and also rookies like Pip, BJ, and Grant, who saw there stats grow by leaps and bounds alongside mj (and all three have significant video of them crediting mj as the reason for their accolades).. so mj did develop a champion

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    lebron hops onto the league favorite (11', 15', 20') - he doesn't build champions like MJ did
    LeBron joined a rebuilding team in LA, even when they added AD the Clippers were pre-season favorites to win it all.

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    Default Re: What if players had to shoot all jumpers and couldn't shoot at rim? Stats say tha

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    bran looking at mjs numbers like



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