View Poll Results: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

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    GSW Fan Since the 90s Cleverness's Avatar
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    Default How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    How many lives has Trump's hand-picked Coronavirus Task Force saved?

    I'm going with 0 lives saved from COVID-19 and approximately 60,000 additional deaths due to his team's policies.

    But I know there are some HUGE fans of Trump's coronavirus team on this forum (bladefd, TheMan, highwhey, n00bie, ~primetime~, Rooster, rufuspaul, ItsMillerTime, 4pointshot), so their estimates will be high no doubt.

    According to CNN, MSNBC, and Democrats/Joe Biden, etc, Trump is directly responsible for the virus outcomes. Thus, by their own recent predictions, Trump's hand-picked task force has saved MILLIONS of lives!

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    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...lions-of-lives

    Note that Trump's hand-picked task force includes quack scientists, such as:









    Last edited by Cleverness; 09-22-2020 at 09:58 PM.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.
    Huh?

    OP seemed to be grouping people based on their reaction to coronavirus.

    Rufuspaul has been (and still is) hiding under his bed from corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.
    Quote Originally Posted by rufuspaul View Post
    Oh I don't know, maybe acknowledge that the virus is real? Maybe listen to and follow the advice of scientists and medical professionals? Maybe mobilize a national effort to test and contact trace like most other 1st world countries have done? Maybe not cheer on idiots that were protesting the lockdown? Maybe not chastise governors and mayors for not opening back up too quickly? Maybe have just an ounce of compassion for people who are suffering and dying?
    Quote Originally Posted by rufuspaul View Post
    Here in NC our governor is getting flak for keeping the state in phase 2 for another 5 weeks. Truth be told we should've never moved out of phase 1. Our trends are pointing towards another total lockdown since we didn't get the 1st one right.
    He seems to have no clue what's going on and never responded to any of my follow-ups to his posts. His pseudo-scientific, communistic approach to this uncontrollable seasonal coronavirus is disheartening to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    You've been completely ignorant throughout all this, so let me help you with some data on North Carolina:

    Total hospital beds in use: 14,317 / 21,444 . 67% full. source
    Hospital beds w/ COVID currently: 1,147 source

    Only 5.3% of NC hospital beds are being used by patients with COVID. But keep in mind that some of those patients aren't even in FOR COVID, but simply WITH COVID & many of these patients are ill regardless of COVID, so they could have been hospitalized regardless of COVID.

    DHHS spokeswoman Sarah Lewis Peel: “On any given day, our hospitals — by design — operate at 90 to 100% capacity. That’s why we have sought waivers to allow critical access hospitals to operate above their licensed capacity,”


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...avirus-Spreads

    Mild scenario: 10 million. Moderate scenario: 21 million. Dire scenario: 31 million hospitalizations

    Actual number thus far: 0.45 million (inflated) (CDC)

    We are far below the mild scenario, but with the dire scenario hysteria. As a healthcare provider, I hope you now have a better understanding of the situation. God bless.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    i misunderstood, then. when i see a name list consisting of bladefd, millertime, etc and then see rufus grouped up in there too it's just... strange to see.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    I hate to agree with CNN, but 5.6 million sounds about right.

    It took balls to close down one of the greatest economies of all time, while being called a xenophobe and a racist for banning China. Not many people could have done that under similar circumstances.

    Just being called a xenophobe and a racist in it self would have delayed other Presidents for who knows how many weeks. And that delay would had caused that China virus to spread at an unimaginable, exponential level.

    People forget, but if you remember back to even March, people thought it was silly to even suspend the NBA season. Posters like Walk on Water got their threads deleted for suggesting such a thing. Yet Trump understood the situation and he took all the criticism, saving millions in the process.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Lol, nobody is buying your narrative OP...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19 response. We still lead the world in covid19 deaths with Brazil and India on our heels, those are countries the US shouldn't ever be grouped in with.

    FOH shill

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Best case scenario was 2m deaths. So trump saved a lot

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Lol, nobody is buying your narrative OP...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19 response. We still lead the world in covid19 deaths with Brazil and India on our heels, those are countries the US shouldn't ever be grouped in with.

    FOH shill
    Your response to the facts is "check the polls on what Americans believe about Trump."

    Wow. Solid response bro.

    Why not try to answer the question and have a discussion about his team's response and how many lives it has saved? Go on, try it.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Terrible logic, OP. And no, I won't buy into your petty argument.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    Terrible logic, OP. And no, I won't buy into your petty argument.
    Why not try to answer the question and have a discussion about his team's response and how many lives it has saved? Go on, try it.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Because the argument will keep going around in circles. There's absolutely no point.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    zero, trump has handled covid terribly.

    ernie, i gotta tell you, he's turrible.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    Because the argument will keep going around in circles. There's absolutely no point.

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    Default Re: How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

    Quote Originally Posted by highwhey View Post
    zero, trump has handled covid terribly.

    ernie, i gotta tell you, he's turrible.
    To be fair, his team was doing great until mid-March. That's when they ditched the pro-science playbook for the CCP's playbook.

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    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...own-propaganda


    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    Dr. Fauci RE Woodward's fake news: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/stat...62016151232513
    Dr. Fauci says that he never got the sense that President Trump was downplaying COVID-19:

    "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

    The fact is he followed Dr. Fauci's lead all year.

    February: Dr. Fauci: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands


    Fauci: Flu a Bigger Risk in the US Than Coronavirus

    February 29th: Dr. Fauci on coronavirus fears: No need to change lifestyle yet

    March 8th: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.

    March 9th: “No reason” not to go on cruise if you’re young and healthy: Fauci


    Then Fauci did a 180, replaced decades of hard science for pseudoscience, and our politicians caved to media/fear/hysteria and went with draconian lockdowns for 15 days to flatten the curve (which has turned into 2 years of tyranny) http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14104037
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14104041

    They predicted between 10 million to 31 million hospitalizations from COVID (LOL). Actual data from CDC so far is approx 0.4 million http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...avirus-Spreads

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14103771

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