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    Default Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    I think Tatum is the better player. And put up better nunbers than Kawhi.

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    tatum got theiss and kemba
    Kiwi got duncan and parker


    Tatum > kiwi if they changed teams

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Doesn't mean anything. Leonard is one of those unusual guys that grows from roleplayer to superstar. Tatum came into thr league as a scorer.

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Kawhi destroyed LeBron and won finals mvp at 22. Tatum is 1 loss away from losing to Butler in the ECF.

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    The FMVP that dominated prime Bran on both ends H2H minus the garbage time statpadding

    Tatum got outplayed by Lowry last round. He just got bailed out by Marcus Smart who was the Celtics MVP that series
    Last edited by Hamtaro CP3KDKG; 09-26-2020 at 12:41 AM.

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by HBK_Kliq_2 View Post
    Kawhi destroyed LeBron and won finals mvp at 22. Tatum is 1 loss away from losing to Butler in the ECF.
    You clearly didn't watch that series.

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    I think Tatum is the better player. And put up better nunbers than Kawhi.
    Who gave 22 year old Kawhi a fmvp?

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Spurs m8 View Post
    Who gave 22 year old Kawhi a fmvp?
    tony parker

    Next question lil boi

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    tony parker

    Next question lil boi
    The correct answer....the guy you ma$turbate to daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    tony parker

    Next question lil boi
    Some use the 2014 Finals as proof that LeBron had no help. His excuse for losing because of no help would make sense, except for the fact that LeBron did not help his team at all after the series was tied 1-1, he only padded his stats. He was not helping his team win games at all, and was completely outplayed in Games 3-4-5 by Kahwi Leonard.

    Games 3-4-5
    Lebron scored 51 of his 81 points (63%) being down 15+
    Leonard scored 27 of his 71 points (38%) being up 15+
    Leonard outscored Lebron 44-30 in non-blowout situations

    Leonard 23.7 ppg on 69%
    LeBron 27.0 ppg on 55%
    (Leonard 14% more efficient)

    And again, Lebron stats were heavily padded in garbage time, in non blowout situations Leonard outscored him

    Leonard 9.3 rpg
    LeBron 7.7 rpg

    Leonard 2.0 spg
    LeBron 1.7 spg

    Leonard 2.0 bpg
    LeBron 0.7 bpg

    Leonard 2.3 apg with 1.7 TOpg
    LeBron 4.7 apg with 3.7 TOpg
    Leonard had a slightly better ast:TO ratio

    Through games 3-4-5, Leonard scored much more efficiently (and more in non blowout situations) and outrebounded, outstole, and outblocked Lebron with a better ast:TO ratio

    Game 3
    Lebron had 14 points and 0 TO in first quarter, then 8 points and 7 TOs for the last 3 quarters. LeBron had 22-5-7-5 with 7 TOs on 64%, Wade had 22-4-2-2 with 5 TOs on 67%. But over the last 3 quarters, LeBron had 8 points and 7 TOs to Wade's 20 points and 3 TOs. The Heat cut the lead from 15 to 9 without LeBron, after Wade subbed in for him, from the 5:00 to 1:00 mark of the 3rd quarter, but even with that help LeBron still lost.

    Game 4
    Lebron had 9 points in first half and the Heat were blown out by 19 at halftime. He padded his stats from there, and he did not score on Leonard in the first half.

    Game 5
    Lebron had 1 FG in 2nd quarter (2:30 mark) to bring the Heat within 5. Then he did not score again until the Heat were down 21 with 4:40 in the 3rd. LeBron shot 1-6 against Leonard this game.

    Leonard clearly outplayed Lebron over the final 3 games, even with Lebron padding his stats, and Lebron failed to score consistently until after his teams were getting blown out. LeBron did not play well in the 2014 Finals after Game 2, he only padded his stats. LeBron's 2014 Finals was a repeat of the 2011 Finals after Game 2, the only differences being that LeBron's teammates disappeared along with him, and LeBron padded his stats to save face. So any notion that LeBron had an "amazing" series, and still lost because of his teammates is false. LeBron failed his team over the Final 3 games, and that's why he lost. He did not contribute offensively or defensively. The Spurs did have great offensive execution in this series, but a lot of that had to do with the poor defensive leadership of LeBron, who got exposed by Kawhi Leonard. Remember, this is the same Spurs team that went 7 games against a top 10 worst defense in the league, the 8-seed Mavericks. They were far from an invincible team.

    In those last 3 games, Leonard outrebounded, outblocked, outstole Lebron, scored MUCH more efficiently (14% FG higher than Lebron) and Lebron committed more than twice as many turnovers. In Game 3, LeBron had 14 points in the 1st quarter, then 8 points and 7 turnovers in the last 3 quarters. In Game 4, LeBron had 9 points in the first half, and they were blown out by 19 at that point, from where he padded his stats
    Next reach junior

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG View Post
    Next reach junior
    That has to be one of the most autistic posts ever. I'm also sure it was posted by Imkobe, the resident dumbass, and he got eviscerated.

    From a previous post of mine, replying to Laz:

    LeBron 2014

    LeBron only played like 6 minutes a game in the 4th Q's and scored only ~3.5 points. Did his scoring in the first 3 Q's when the games were still within ~15 points. However, according to Lazerus, if a player tries to score when a team in trailing by 15 with a quarter and a half of basketball, it's stat padding, because apparently the game is already a blowout.

    For instance, in his insane and absolutely retarded rambling, he fails to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron brought the Heat back to within 13 with like 8 minutes to go in the 3rd. That's when others started missing and the Spurs went on a 7-0 run.

    Game 1 - LeBron single handedly kept the Heat in the game and the minute he goes out, Miami gets blown out. 2 point game with LeBron on the court. The moment he sits, the Spurs go on a 16-3 run in a span of about four minutes. As I said, without LeBron the Heat got torched by the Spurs.

    Game 2 - LeBron plays an incredible game and CB comes through in the Clutch with the late 3. Miami barely win though. Even though Bosh came through in the clutch, dude was terrible (as was Wade) and let Duncan destroy him.

    Game 3 - LeBron was terrible in the 4th without question. No excuses. Unlike you, I can admit when a player is terrible, you braindead retard.

    Game 5 - So, according to you, LeBron was stat padding when he was trying to score midway through the 3rd with the Heat down 15, but he should’ve scored more with the Heat down 19 going into the 4th? You really do not understand what the term stat padding means, do you? Anyways, TP completely wrecked the Heat in the 4th Q that game. The Heat were never able to get closer than 16 and couldn’t get a stop defensively.

    LeBron puts up 28 PPG on 68% TS and the Heat get blown out. Compare that to Chokerlain. Chokerlain was the 7th leading scorer from both teams (5th on his own team) and put up 18 PPG on 50% TS. The Warriors won. Chokerlain was also the 6th leading scorer in the ’72 Finals and the Lakers won easily. The ’69 Finals are absolutely hilarious though. 12 PPG on 48% TS (with teammates averaging 28 PPG, 18 PPG and 15 PPG). See, this is why LeBron is tiers above Chokerlain. Chokerlain was just flat out terrible. LeBron needs to do everything for his team to win.

    Lets also not forget that the Spurs were the overwhelming favorites to win the Finals. The Heat regressed offensively and defensively from the previous season and was terrible defensively.

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    Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

    Nice try

    It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-heat-vs-spurs

    https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nb...-favorite-2014

    -125 SA
    +105 Miami

    Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

    Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

    -240 Miami
    +200 SA

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    clearly that guy is a retard ^^^

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    Default Re: Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG View Post
    Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

    Nice try

    It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-heat-vs-spurs

    https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nb...-favorite-2014

    -125 SA
    +105 Miami

    Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

    Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

    -240 Miami
    +200 SA
    Is that all you got out of my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG View Post
    Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

    Nice try

    It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-heat-vs-spurs

    https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nb...-favorite-2014

    -125 SA
    +105 Miami

    Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

    Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

    -240 Miami
    +200 SA


    12-6 in favor of Spurs. "Close to even".

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