Page 8 of 12 FirstFirst ... 567891011 ... LastLast
Results 106 to 120 of 171
  1. #106
    The Renaissance man bladefd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Galaxy Far Far Away
    Posts
    10,886

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rawimpact View Post
    LOL

    The US is in trillion+ of debt

    He is perfectly suited to continue that more so than others.
    He personally owes hundreds of millions, which they will come collecting in 2022. Does he even have that sitting around without selling half his properties? He is not as wealthy as he says, pal.

  2. #107
    NBA lottery pick
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    5,746

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    Conservatism isn't exclusive to US politics.

    Also you thinking I'm opposed to earning money goes to show tht you never read my posts, didn't read my last few posts itt and have no clue what social democracy and social market economy are. The stuff I propagate
    Conservatism means different things in the context of different countries' politics. You specifically said American bible thumpers.

    Jesus' message was be kind to one another and be charitable, yeah?

    Did he specify doing it through government, or as individuals/charitable organizations?

    I think he said something about rich men can't go to heaven. How many rich bible thumpers do you know? Did he follow up by saying "And even if you aren't rich, you should make sure nobody else is allowed to be rich either."

    I mean I know the basics of the NT, but I haven't studied it thoroughly. So I'm legitimately asking.

    To what extent does Jesus specify charity and kindness as governmental/political dictates?

  3. #108
    NBA lottery pick
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    5,746

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    As far as the second thing, of course I understand what social democracy is.

    "You're free to make money as a private business, but then if enough people vote to take it away from you, the government takes it from you."

    It's a roundabout way of advocating a communist dictatorship, while saying "Seeeeee? We're not against private business!"

    Just like the stick-up artist with a gun. Hey, he loves it when other people go out and make plenty of money. If you're strong arming someone... who wouldnt?

    That's Democratic Socialism.

  4. #109
    College superstar Overdrive's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4,554

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by starface View Post
    Conservatism means different things in the context of different countries' politics. You specifically said American bible thumpers.

    Jesus' message was be kind to one another and be charitable, yeah?

    Did he specify doing it through government, or as individuals/charitable organizations?

    I think he said something about rich men can't go to heaven. How many rich bible thumpers do you know? Did he follow up by saying "And even if you aren't rich, you should make sure nobody else is allowed to be rich either."

    I mean I know the basics of the NT, but I haven't studied it thoroughly. So I'm legitimately asking.

    To what extent does Jesus specify charity and kindness as governmental/political dictates?
    I said american bible thumpers, because they take religion as a source for their conservatism while Jesus was pretty progressive and social for his time and even now.

    Maybe bible thumper was a hyperbole, but I'd believe most rich people are on the conservative spectrum of politics in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by starface View Post
    As far as the second thing, of course I understand what social democracy is.

    "You're free to make money as a private business, but then if enough people vote to take it away from you, the government takes it from you."

    It's a roundabout way of advocating a communist dictatorship, while saying "Seeeeee? We're not against private business!"

    Just like the stick-up artist with a gun. Hey, he loves it when other people go out and make plenty of money. If you're strong arming someone... who wouldnt?

    That's Democratic Socialism.
    Wtf no, it's absolutely not. There were no state drive disenfranchisings here in the last 60 or so years. The state can't just take your business. You're still in the McCarthy era. Afraid of a communist boogieman while you live under a monetary biparty faux democracy with no chance for change no matter who becomes president. Their policies have to appease to the same bunch of people no matter who wins.

  5. #110
    NBA lottery pick
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    5,746

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    I said american bible thumpers, because they take religion as a source for their conservatism while Jesus was pretty progressive and social for his time and even now.

    Maybe bible thumper was a hyperbole, but I'd believe most rich people are on the conservative spectrum of politics in the US.



    Wtf no, it's absolutely not. There were no state drive disenfranchisings here in the last 60 or so years. The state can't just take your business. You're still in the McCarthy era. Afraid of a communist boogieman while you live under a monetary biparty faux democracy with no chance for change no matter who becomes president. Their policies have to appease to the same bunch of people no matter who wins.

    I didnt say the state takes the business. I specifically said it doesnt. It leaves the business to the owner, while just taking the money

    You like to use the technicality that the state doesnt own the business, to distinguish it from the less popular label of communism. But if the state ultimately takes all or most of the earnings... who cares who’s on the deed? They have no incentive to invest their time and money into making it work.

    Youre strawmanning because I described exactly what democratic socialism is and youre a bit embarrassed to have the smoke and mirrors dismantled so easily.

    We already have a degree of DS in the United States, as does every developed western country. All this debate comes down to is the specific amount people should be taxed and whom it should he spent on. We’re not arguing fundamentally different systems. Just the specific amount of government control of revenue.

  6. #111
    NBA lottery pick Lakers Legend#32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Low Rent Dist of Raider Nation
    Posts
    5,137

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Trump Cult Members, remember the feds got Capone on tax evasion.

  7. #112
    O LA DI PO ItsMillerTime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Naptown
    Posts
    2,725

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    The difference is Ralph and I want to abolish capitalism, Overdrive wants a mixed economy and the liberals just want a polite guy in the White House so they can pretend everything is ok.
    You're high as shit if you identify me as one of these liberals. Biden could not be any more mainstream status quo from the retarded Democratic party, everything is definitely NOT okay. Biden is not the answer to everyone's prayers but if we don't get this criminal dipshit out of the White House, things are going to continue to get worse.

  8. #113
    NBA lottery pick
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    5,746

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Coming to Showtime:

    Unhinged and Obsessed: The ItsMillerTime Story...

  9. #114
    NBA lottery pick Lakers Legend#32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Low Rent Dist of Raider Nation
    Posts
    5,137

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Trump pays $70,000 a year for a hair stylist.
    What. A. B!tch.

  10. #115
    College star rawimpact's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,859

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    He personally owes hundreds of millions, which they will come collecting in 2022. Does he even have that sitting around without selling half his properties? He is not as wealthy as he says, pal.
    So? I dont care about his personal life, that's his problem. I don't know why you or the moron above me take it so personal.

    I just care about how he can make my finances better. The policies he puts in place or removes... not the stupidity that comes out of his mouth.

    keep taxes low, dont subsidize low-income insurance by killing the middle class

  11. #116
    ~the original p.tiddy~ ~primetime~'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    ~dallas,texas~ team: ~cowboys~
    Posts
    25,033

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rawimpact View Post
    So? I dont care about his personal life, that's his problem.

    I just care about how he can make my finances better.
    you want Trump to make your finances better...but you don't care that he is incapable of keeping his own finances in order

  12. #117
    College star rawimpact's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,859

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ~primetime~ View Post
    you want Trump to make your finances better...but you don't care that he is incapable of keeping his own finances in order
    My effective tax rate in trumps has been lower than Obamas

    I want the trend to continue

    Unlike you, I can differentiate personal decisions from government policies. and for the millionth time, there's only one part I care about and that's the one that effects me.

  13. #118
    NBA lottery pick
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    5,746

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ~primetime~ View Post
    you want Trump to make your finances better...but you don't care that he is incapable of keeping his own finances in order

    Trump spends his time playing golf and grabbing women by the pvssy. He lives in a luxury high rise. Hes spent his entire life living this way and hes now 80 years old. He ran for United States President for fun... AND WON. Billionaires like Mike Bloomberg and Ross Perot tried the same thing and got nowhere.

    Seems like he knows what hes doing.

  14. #119
    College superstar Overdrive's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4,554

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by starface View Post
    I didnt say the state takes the business. I specifically said it doesnt. It leaves the business to the owner, while just taking the money

    You like to use the technicality that the state doesnt own the business, to distinguish it from the less popular label of communism. But if the state ultimately takes all or most of the earnings... who cares who’s on the deed? They have no incentive to invest their time and money into making it work.

    Youre strawmanning because I described exactly what democratic socialism is and youre a bit embarrassed to have the smoke and mirrors dismantled so easily.

    We already have a degree of DS in the United States, as does every developed western country. All this debate comes down to is the specific amount people should be taxed and whom it should he spent on. We’re not arguing fundamentally different systems. Just the specific amount of government control of revenue.
    Okay I misinterpreted take it away from as taking the business not the money.

    US corporate tax is up to 21%. 25% in Austria. The difference between the systems isn't the tax amount they take it's what's done with the money.

    Also social democracy is not democratic socialism. Don't twist those two things

  15. #120
    81 on the Raptors BigKobeFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    1,766

    Default Re: Trump paid no income tax in 10 of last 15 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakers Legend#32 View Post
    Trump pays $70,000 a year for a hair stylist.
    What. A. B!tch.
    At least he gave a hair stylist a $70k job. What have you done so far?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •