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    Default Re: LeBron vs. Jordan: Survey Says...

    Why do people actually give a shit what ESPN tries to force feed them? "Experts"...Like who? Scottie "change my opinion every 2 months" Pippen? All the other guys who get paid handsome salaries to sit around talking all kinds of foul stuff about athletes?

    It's all bullshit. You're allowed to have your own opinion and criteria without being criticized for it. It's only sport. I grew up with MJ but prefer LeBron's style and story. They are both better than each other at certain things and play nothing alike at all. The obsession with the comparison has always been kind of weird to me, much like the MJ brainwashing that occurred throughout the 80s and 90s. This shouldn't be a daily debate for years on end. One guy hasn't even ended his career yet. How much time are we going to waste on this garbage?

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    Jordan didn't have the same team for both 3-peats

    Every teammate was different on the 2nd three-peat, except a player that would average 17 on 41% for that three-peat

    So that proves MJ could win with anyone

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    Default Re: LeBron vs. Jordan: Survey Says...

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Jordan didn't have the same team for both 3-peats

    Every teammate was different on the 2nd three-peat, except a player that would average 17 on 41% for that three-peat

    So that proves MJ could win with anyone
    Pippen is so bad that he outscored the opposing team's 2nd highest scorer in 5/6 finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Jordan didn't have the same team for both 3-peats

    Every teammate was different on the 2nd three-peat, except a player that would average 17 on 41% for that three-peat

    So that proves MJ could win with anyone
    lol

    He just chose not to sometimes then. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    ESPN did a survey of experts. Here are the results (in the order ESPN discussed them).

    Tougher era: LeBron 64%, MJ 36%
    Better teammate: Pippen 68%, Davis 32%
    More accomplishments: LeBron 62%, MJ 38%
    Greater accomplishment: 6 rings 72%, 10 finals 28%
    Greater accomplishment: Two threepeats with same team 57%, chips with three teams 43%
    Higher peak: MJ 82%, LeBron 18%
    MJ is...: GOAT 62%, #2 32%, top 5 6%
    LeBron is...: GOAT 23%, #2 55%, top 5 21%
    Final # of titles for LeBron: Four 17%, Five 70%, Six 13%, Seven+ 0% (Avg. 4.95)
    Rings LeBron needs to surpass MJ: Three 15%, four 15%, Five 11%, Six 28%, Seven 15%, LeBron can never surpass MJ 17%

    The rings to surpass MJ has 30% putting him ahead of MJ now whereas 23% had LeBron as GOAT. The discrepancy is they included other players in the GOAT discussion.

    Per this, if LeBron wins five 41% would put him ahead of MJ. 6 would break the dam and get LeBron to 69%.

    Discussion of each question in the full article at https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...an-goat-status.

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    Mike needed a perfectly crafted system. He needed it tailor made to win. Mike won because of a system.

    He needed to have an elite 2 way player at small forward, No Pip? NO CHIP. He needed the legendary GOAT head coach. He had to play in Chicago. He had to play under no legal zone defense.

    Give LBJ the worst front office that hadn't won a championship in 50 years and he will find a way to win. Stick Lebron in Cleveland, Miami, Los Angeles. It doesn't matter. LeBron's number two option star can be a point guard like Kyrie, a shooting guard like Dwayne Wade, or a big man like Anthony Davis. Again, it doesn't matter, he always finds a way to win. And don't forget, Ty Lue is no Phil Jackson.

    Michael needed a tailor made, perfectly crafted system to get out of the 1st round.

    LeBron just needed a ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallSucks View Post
    Pippen is so bad that he outscored the opposing team's 2nd highest scorer in 5/6 finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Mike needed a perfectly crafted system. He needed it tailor made to win. Mike won because of a system.

    He needed to have an elite 2 way player at small forward, No Pip? NO CHIP. He needed the legendary GOAT head coach. He had to play in Chicago. He had to play under no legal zone defense.

    Give LBJ the worst front office that hadn't won a championship in 50 years and he will find a way to win. Stick Lebron in Cleveland, Miami, Los Angeles. It doesn't matter. LeBron's number two option star can be a point guard like Kyrie, a shooting guard like Dwayne Wade, or a big man like Anthony Davis. Again, it doesn't matter, he always finds a way to win. And don't forget, Ty Lue is no Phil Jackson.

    Michael needed a tailor made, perfectly crafted system to get out of the 1st round.

    LeBron just needed a ball.
    If Bron just needed a ball, why didn't he stay in Cleveland for the rest of his career?

    why keep hopping teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawkish View Post
    If Bron just needed a ball, why didn't he stay in Cleveland for the rest of his career?

    why keep hopping teams?
    he needed the challenge. lakers decade long losing drought, miami dry spell and then 30 year drought cleveland. the hardest road. and he chose them delivering a chip without pip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Kobrick View Post
    he needed the challenge. lakers decade long losing drought, miami dry spell and then 30 year drought cleveland. the hardest road. and he chose them delivering a chip without pip
    i thought he just needed a ball, no challenge mentioned

    i thought Bron could lift teams all by himself, he just needs a ball right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawkish View Post
    i thought he just needed a ball, no challenge mentioned

    i thought Bron could lift teams all by himself, he just needs a ball right?
    no pip fo chips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawkish View Post
    i thought he just needed a ball, no challenge mentioned

    i thought Bron could lift teams all by himself, he just needs a ball right?
    Nope.

    He needs to collude with multiple all stars.

    No rings without it

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    Default Re: LeBron vs. Jordan: Survey Says...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Mike needed a perfectly crafted system. He needed it tailor made to win. Mike won because of a system.

    He needed to have an elite 2 way player at small forward, No Pip? NO CHIP. He needed the legendary GOAT head coach. He had to play in Chicago. He had to play under no legal zone defense.

    Give LBJ the worst front office that hadn't won a championship in 50 years and he will find a way to win. Stick Lebron in Cleveland, Miami, Los Angeles. It doesn't matter. LeBron's number two option star can be a point guard like Kyrie, a shooting guard like Dwayne Wade, or a big man like Anthony Davis. Again, it doesn't matter, he always finds a way to win. And don't forget, Ty Lue is no Phil Jackson.

    Michael needed a tailor made, perfectly crafted system to get out of the 1st round.

    LeBron just needed a ball.
    Ether

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    Damn, this is a hard hit for the MJ stans


    Must jerk off to space jam now

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    Default Re: LeBron vs. Jordan: Survey Says...

    congrats to all the shills employed by lebronze to brain wash the younger generation.

    from espn trash shannon sharpe, all the way down to random message boards like this one.

    tougher era lebronzes? LOL ok great job shills, great job @ thecorporation, and1allday, etc. etc.

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