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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallSucks View Post
    It's over 3ball
    That's a dumb chart that measures how top heavy a league is

    Lebron never faced an actual talent deficit except 07', 15', and 18'.. and he still should've won in 15', but he was playing like Iverson on offense and Kukoc on defense, so he lost

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Jordan finals opponents were as tough as the Miami Heat.

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    Jordan finals opponents were as tough as the Miami Heat.
    MJ never faced a #1 option as weak as butler in the Finals except maybe 1996, but that isn't fair because Payton/Kemp were 1a/1b (2 Butlers)

    Butler is a 20 ppg player that played way over his head because lebron sucks.. everyone goes off on lebron, even iggy.. if butler had a smidgen of help, lebron would've lost with Kareem on his team

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    it's over 3ball

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallSucks View Post
    it's over 3ball
    hes fighting so hard

    for second place at best now

    imagine only making 6 finals

    like wtf were you doing the rest of your career? waiting for pippen to bail you out?



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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    That's 3 all-stars sharing the load among 3 guys (plus Harper), yet they STILL almost match pippen's peak scoring year that you cherry-picked...

    ^^^ so Jordan was a 1-man team confirmed...

    And confirmed again
    It looks like the guy you criticize on a daily basis for being a scrub, specifically for his scoring outscored everybody on the opposition, including THREE other All-Stars in one series. So either Pippen was an elite player or Jordan's era was weak AF

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    MJ never faced a #1 option as weak as butler in the Finals except maybe 1996, but that isn't fair because Payton/Kemp were 1a/1b (2 Butlers)

    Butler is a 20 ppg player that played way over his head because lebron sucks.. everyone goes off on lebron, even iggy.. if butler had a smidgen of help, lebron would've lost with Kareem on his team
    jimmy > all of mikes opponents in his entire career be v vareful if this is brans weakest ring

    butler in the finals 26/8/10 on 55%
    vs mikes finals opponents

    91 magic, 19 ppg on 43%
    92 drexler, 25 ppg on 41%
    93 barkley, 27 ppg on 48%

    (not looking good up to here only 1 dude has more ppgz than butler which is brans weakest ring right?)

    96 kemp, 23 ppg on 55%
    97 malone, 24 ppg on 44%
    98 malone, 25 ppg, on 50%

    uh oh YIKES butler scored more ppgz than 5 of 6 mike finals #1 option opponents

    mike is not top 5 anymore

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    It looks like the guy you criticize on a daily basis for being a scrub, specifically for his scoring outscored everybody on the opposition, including THREE other All-Stars in one series. So either Pippen was an elite player or Jordan's era was weak AF
    Yup. That is a consistent discrepancy in the MJ stan narrative. We know Pippen all-time went down as 5th or 6th for his era. If he was a bum, that discredits the entire era by implication. Pippen is ahead of nearly every player these guys hype. How good could a Mark Price be then if a bum was clearly better than him?

    96 kemp, 23 ppg on 55%
    97 malone, 24 ppg on 44%
    98 malone, 25 ppg, on 50%
    Payton was their #1. Payton was 18 PPG on 44%. People think it is Kemp because MJ stans have a woody for hyping him in particular (Miller is the only guy they gas more) for some odd reason.

    Payton was good enough to be a MVP candidate and 1st team all-NBA. Kemp never got to that level. Kemp at his best (a 3 year peak) was in the next tier, a clear top 10 player but not in the top 5/MVP/all-NBA first team/etc. conversation.

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    yo 3ball were this year's Bucks one of the best teams ever as SRS seems to imply?

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Is this fun for you 3ball? Seems like there are better things to do with your time than just flood the board with trollish anti-Lebron threads. I think we get your opinion on the matter. He is a 4x champ and was dominant yet again. You always have next year to hope the Clippers or Warriors stop him.

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    Default Re: it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in

    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallSucks View Post
    It's over 3ball
    100%

    Imagine fighting this hard just to be #2 all time. LeGoat is cemented top 1. Better fight vs Kareem, Russell and Magic for the #2 spot at this point.

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