it's a statistical FACT that the 89' Cavs were better than anyone lebron beat in East

[2ball]

Op has been reduced to the 89 cavs lol

[3ball]

The '85 the Bucks had a higher SRS and DRTG than Bird's Celtics & Magic-Kareem Lakers, yet they were considered a tier below those teams.

Now stfu.

What about all-stars.. what about preseason odds

The 89' Cavs had all four - the best combination of SRS, DRTG, all-stars and odds - than any team Lebron beat.. you have yet to offer a team that can match all four categories, or even three

Ultimately, the 89' Bulls beat the #1 SRS Cavs, so they would beat the #6 Pistons from 07', or the #4 Magic from 09'.. Carry on the fraud tho

[2ball]

They had a better combination of SRS (1), DRTG (2), all-stars (3), and preseason odds (+800) than anyone lebron beat in the East

No team that lebron beat comes anywhere NEAR this total combination of numbers - only the 14' Pacers can match the DRTG (trails in everything else by a lot), and the 15' Bulls can match the preseason odds (trails in everything else by a lot)

Ultimately, the 89' Bulls beat the #1 SRS Cavs, so they would beat the #6 Pistons from 07', or the #4 Magic from 09'.. Carry on the fraud tho

2009 cavs that LeBron dragged to 66 wins has a higher SRS

[Doctor K]

What about all-stars.. what about preseason odds

The 89' Cavs had all four - the best combination of SRS, DRTG, all-stars and odds - than any team Lebron beat.. you have yet to offer a team that can match all four categories, or even three

Ultimately, the 89' Bulls beat the #1 SRS Cavs, so they would beat the #6 Pistons from 07', or the #4 Magic from 09'.. Carry on the fraud tho

What about the preseason odds? ARe you insane? Since when did PRESEASON odds become a big determinant on how good a team was at the end of the season? Give playoffs odds or series odds or something. PRESEASON odds? Really desperate here.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

1989 cavs: 7.95 SRS

2019 bucks: 8.04 SRS

2018 raptors: 7.29 SRS

Kawhi wins again.

[3ball]

What about the preseason odds? ARe you insane? Since when did PRESEASON odds become a big determinant on how good a team was at the end of the season? Give playoffs odds or series odds or something. PRESEASON odds? Really desperate here.

Bulls were a 47-win, 6 seed by the end of season.. #10 SRS.. they were massive underdogs, described by Jordan-hater Sam Smith here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPo7lPyAlc&t=17m27s

[red1]

Thank you for not tucking tail 3ball. It's been fun shitting on you.


You lose bitch. Third franchise that he led to a chip- you look stupid.


Pippen's bulls won 55 games without baldan.

[3ball]

Thank you for not tucking tail 3ball. It's been fun shitting on you.


You lose bitch. Third franchise that he led to a chip- you look stupid.


Pippen's bulls won 55 games without baldan.

Running?

Each manufactured accolade that lebron gets only illustrates how great MJ was.. lebron is a gauge of mj's greatness, nothing more.. he'll always be the inferior #23 that was too scared to make another number less famous lol.. leFraud

[red1]

Running?

Each manufactured accolade that lebron gets only illustrates how great MJ was.. lebron is a gauge of mj's greatness, nothing more.. the inferior 23 that was to scared to make another number less famous

I won. You said not top 10. I said top 2.


How we looking?

[red1]

quatro...



cinco...?

[3ball]

I won. You said not top 10. I said top 2.


How we looking?

It's too easy to imagine other guys like CP3 doing better with Wade/Bosh.. or 09' Dwight.. or tons of guys would've done better.

These guys aren't better than bron, but if people can easily say they'd do better with Wade/Bosh, then that's a problem for lebron's all-time ranking..

because no one is winning 6 rings with Scottie - the 99' Rockets had him at 3rd option and got destroyed in the 1st Round.. heck, no one ever won 3 rings without their teammate getting FMVP or 25-30 in one of the Finals, so how could anyone win 6 with pippen (who was 0/6 in FMVP and couldn't get 25 ppg)?.. it's impossible..

Carry on tho.. I'm gonna let you enjoy your alternate reality

[plowking]

Is it fact that once Jordan and Bron both won their first titles, that LeBron has been the better player? Stats say so.

Jordan in his 7 playoff runs since he won his first title: 28.1 PER, .558 TS%, .258 WS
LeBron in his 8 playoff runs since he won his first title: 29.7 PER, .596 TS%, .259 WS

Jordan raw stats in his 7 playoff runs since he won his first title: 32.5ppg/6.2rpg/5.3apg/1.9spg/0.8bpg
LeBron raw stats in his 8 playoff runs since he won his first title: 29.2ppg/9.4rpg/7.3apg/1.7spg/0.9bpg

Essentially the same offensive and defensive rating in the playoffs during this time, and the per 100 possession stats reflect the differences pretty accurately in line with the raw stats.

Food for thought.

[3ball]

Is it fact that once Jordan and Bron both won their first titles, that LeBron has been the better player? Stats say so.

Jordan in his 7 playoff runs since he won his first title: 28.1 PER, .558 TS%, .258 WS
LeBron in his 8 playoff runs since he won his first title: 29.7 PER, .596 TS%, .259 WS

Jordan raw stats in his 7 playoff runs since he won his first title: 32.5ppg/6.2rpg/5.3apg/1.9spg/0.8bpg
LeBron raw stats in his 8 playoff runs since he won his first title: 29.2ppg/9.4rpg/7.3apg/1.7spg/0.9bpg

Essentially the same offensive and defensive rating in the playoffs during this time, and the per 100 possession stats reflect the differences pretty accurately in line with the raw stats.

Food for thought.

Who leads in career PER

Who leads in career BPM

Who leads in career WS/48

Who has the higher VORP seasons


Jordan.. Jordan . Jordan.. Jordan..

I didn't read the bable you wrote.. I just saw the letter BPM and then you cherry-picking years to get Lebron's higher

The reality is that lebron averaged 2 to 5 more points than his sidekick when he won the Finals (shared load), while MJ averaged 10-20 more (carry-job)

And lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, so he never had a carry-job against a good team.. otoh, MJ had carry-jobs against many good teams

[TheCorporation]

The '85 the Bucks had a higher SRS and DRTG than Bird's Celtics & Magic-Kareem Lakers, yet they were considered a tier below those teams.

Now stfu.

Roasted his ass

[TheCorporation]

Op has been reduced to the 89 cavs lol

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