Are we choosing to ignore the Muslim that beheaded a teacher?

[rawimpact]

So this guy gets to escape his shit hole and harbor in France as a refugee and better his life. But is against the policies and laws such as freedom of expression that make it so... and he goes on to behead a teacher who showed drawings of a pedophile Moe.

Witnesses heard him yelling allahu akbar

religion of peace strikes again

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827

[ZenMaster]

So this guy gets to escape his shit hole and harbor in France as a refugee and better his life. But is against the policies and laws such as freedom of expression that make it so... and he goes on to behead a teacher who showed drawings of a pedophile Moe.

Witnesses heard him yelling allahu akbar

religion of peace strikes again

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827

Apparently he took a picture of the guys head after cutting it off as well and it's quite easily found now as well.
Horrible stuff, RIP.

[iamgine]

This is why Islamic countries all around the world are taking steps to deradicalized Muslims, even at the cost of some freedom of speech. Preachers at mosques are monitored, and if they are preaching radicalism, they will be 'removed' one way or another. Only peaceful Islam that aligns with the government's vision are allowed. Western countries need to do the same.

[Nanners]

This is why Islamic countries all around the world are taking steps to deradicalized Muslims, even at the cost of some freedom of speech. Preachers at mosques are monitored, and if they are preaching radicalism, they will be 'removed' one way or another. Only peaceful Islam that aligns with the government's vision are allowed. Western countries need to do the same.

What do you mean "at the cost of some freedom of speech"?

No Islamic county on this planet has anything remotely close to resembling "free speech". The UAE is probably the most "liberal" islamic country, and theres several types of speech that can potentially send you to prison in that country, including saying simple swear words (or even posting swear words online).

[iamgine]

What do you mean "at the cost of some freedom of speech"?

No Islamic county on this planet has anything remotely close to resembling "free speech". The UAE is probably the most "liberal" islamic country, and theres several types of speech that can potentially send you to prison in that country, including saying simple swear words (or even posting swear words online).

It include countries with majority Muslim population.

Also, I didn't say they had plenty or little of freedom of speech to begin with. Every country is different. Just that now they sacrificed freedom of speech even more by monitoring preachers.

[tpols]

They need to stop letting them into europe. I know it's for "diversity" but alot of those people are brainwashed savages. Let them stay where they are and not invade your society. Muslim empires have been trying to conquer Europeans for many centuries... why are you willingly letting them in when we won (for now) ?

[Nanners]

It include countries with majority Muslim population.

Also, I didn't say they had plenty or little of freedom of speech to begin with. Every country is different. Just that now they sacrificed freedom of speech even more by monitoring preachers.

sorry if my post sounded combative, that was not my intention

anyway I am pretty sure there is not a single country with majority muslim population that has anything resembling free speech

[Nanners]

They need to stop letting them into europe. I know it's for "diversity" but alot of those people are brainwashed savages. Let them stay where they are and not invade your society. Muslim empires have been trying to conquer Europeans for many centuries... why are you willingly letting them in when we won (for now) ?

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

[iamgine]

sorry if my post sounded combative, that was not my intention

anyway I am pretty sure there is not a single country with majority muslim population that has anything resembling free speech

Well that's a pretty low bar. For example, in many muslim majority countries, the people can hold demonstration and openly criticize the government. That's clearly something resembling free speech.

[Nanners]

Well that's a pretty low bar. For example, in many muslim majority countries, the people can hold demonstration and openly criticize the government. That's clearly something resembling free speech.

Not really. When Iranian or Pakistani muslims protest their government, the govt typically responds with an iron fist and/or live ammunation.

Which majority muslim countries are you talking about specifically? If you sort this list of muslim countries by % muslim, you basically wind up with a list of the most extreme and repressive countries on this planet... and you wont see any nation on that list with >50% muslim population that has anything resembling "free speech"

[tpols]

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

I agree we have ****ed with them for power and money, and that is bad. But they were ass backwards way before that. They are like our version of west virginia hillbillies... a lot of them are extremely low IQ and not fit to be in our modern society. But it's even worse because they live under an extremely barbaric religion. Islam has a lot of great principles to it, but it also has a lot of really rigid savage ones as well.

[tpols]

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

And I'd also like to add Donald Trump is the best president we've ever had to your point. He's constantly going on and on about stopping the "endless wars". There's a huge machine behind him that won't let it completely end, but he's pushing for it as hard as any president ever has.

[iamgine]

Not really. When Iranian or Pakistani muslims protest their government, the govt typically responds with an iron fist and/or live ammunation.

Which majority muslim countries are you talking about specifically? If you sort this list of muslim countries by % muslim, you basically wind up with a list of the most extreme and repressive countries on this planet... and you wont see any nation on that list with >50% muslim population that has anything resembling "free speech"

Well there's the country with the most Muslim population in the world, Indonesia. And there's Malaysia. Also, Bangladesh. Also Egypt. etc.

[Nanners]

I agree we have ****ed with them for power and money, and that is bad. But they were ass backwards way before that. They are like our version of west virginia hillbillies... a lot of them are extremely low IQ and not fit to be in our modern society. But it's even worse because they live under an extremely barbaric religion. Islam has a lot of great principles to it, but it also has a lot of really rigid savage ones as well.

no doubt, and the fact that they are ass backwards is all the more reason to leave them and their countries alone

IMO its wildly unfair to equate wv hillbillies with muslim extremists... the reddest neck in all of WV is still lightyears more cultured and civilized than the muslim immigrants that are causing problems in Europe

[Nanners]

Well there's the country with the most Muslim population in the world, Indonesia. And there's Malaysia. Also, Bangladesh. Also Egypt. etc.

none of those countries have anything resembling free speech... and while their govts may be more tolerant of certain types of protests than some of the more extreme islamic countries, those countries are still brutally authoritarian compared to western nations.