Winning more = Better Career. Winning Less = Worse Career. Plain and Simple. LJ > MJ

[Baller789]

lol no matter how you try to spin it. Having the most playoff wins is a very impressive feat to most peoples eyes

out of curiosity where do you rank LeBron all time?

Its impressive no doubt. But if pales in comparison to Bill's 11 championships.
I don't rank players 1-10.
I have tiers. Lebron is included in my top tier.

[Shooter]

Most championships - Bill Russell
Most playoff wins - LeBron
Most championships in the modern zone rule era - LeBron

Two greatest winners ever

Bingo

RIP Top 3 MJ

[Baller789]

Bingo

RIP Top 3 MJ

Don't forget most Eastern Conference Championships in the modern era.
We got this bois!

[Shooter]

Don't forget most Eastern Conference Championships in the modern era.
We got this bois!

LeBron has a better 1-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 2-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 3-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 4-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 5-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 6-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 7-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 9-year peak than anyone.
LeBron has a better 17-year peak than anyone.

You get the message

[And1AllDay]

no more anti 'longevity' for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i took out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything more (mike doesnt)

stats for 10 best years

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals

Guys?

[8Ball]

Don't forget most Eastern Conference Championships in the modern era.
We got this bois!

Reggie Miller in 1998 ECF:

17.4 ppg on 41%
2 assists per game
1.6 rebounds per game

Toughest player Jordan faced in the East in the 90s.

I am more afraid of Al Horford Hawks.

[Baller789]

Reggie Miller in 1998 ECF:

17.4 ppg on 41%
2 assists per game
1.6 rebounds per game

Toughest player Jordan faced in the East in the 90s.

I am more afraid of Al Horford Hawks.

Yep, facing Derozen and Roy Hibbert sure is scary.

[3ball]

Lebron isn't capable of the best strategy and brand of basketball (ball movement) that consistently wins against the best teams (Finals teams)

So he's nowhere near Jordan

The best basketball available is the ball movement juggernauts that the Spurs or Warriors had - lebron's skillset isn't capable of this brand - so he can't play the best brand and is therefore inferior to guys like Bird or Kobe.. let alone Jordan

[And1AllDay]

Yep, facing Derozen and Roy Hibbert sure is scary.

who said that was his best

otoh
John starks

[3ball]

who said that was his best

otoh
John starks

Ewing and Shaq > hibbert

Penny or Hill > derozan

So MJ faced far greater comp

[And1AllDay]

He did nothing more than LeBron. Not Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, Finals, or Playoff series won. Be careful on rings, we all know Russell has 11 baby girl

issa

wrap

[3ball]

issa

wrap

Jordan did more per game

That's why his stats are much better, aka BPM, PER, etc

[And1AllDay]

Ewing and Shaq > hibbert

Penny or Hill > derozan

So MJ faced far greater comp

kg > all of them
mvp rose > all of them
goerge paul > reggie miller
vince carter > all of them

we done?

[And1AllDay]

Jordan did more per game

That's why his stats are much better, aka BPM, PER, etc

he did LESS becos he was stat padding in 1st round and losing



2ez

[Baller789]

who said that was his best

otoh
John starks

Starks isnt laughable because he had Ewing, Oakley, Mason and Harper.