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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio33 View Post
    Gasol shot 59% in the 2009 finals and had on average 11 shots per game.

    Kobe Bryant shot 43% in the 2009 finals on 20+ shots per game.
    You're not comparing apples to apples. For that whole playoff run, of which Kobe was hurt in btw... Kobe averaged 29 ppg. Pau only averaged 19 ppg. Kobe also got the lion's share of the defensive attention and scored more of his points in crunchtime. This is a clear cut 1st/2nd option situation so you can't compare the efficiencies on an even plane.

    Now, as that dynamic relates to AD and LeBron... defenses aren't paying Lebron any more attention than they are Davis. Perhaps even less since Davis outscored Lebron for the whole playoffs. Not 1 series. Whole playoffs. So it's actually even disingenuous for me to compare AD's numbers to Pau's because he's getting them in a first option role, but even with the added defensive pressure, he STILL outperforms Pau which means it's a rout of a comparison. AD is way better.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    You're not comparing apples to apples. For that whole playoff run, of which Kobe was hurt in btw... Kobe averaged 29 ppg. Pau only averaged 19 ppg. Kobe also got the lion's share of the defensive attention and scored more of his points in crunchtime. This is a clear cut 1st/2nd option situation so you can't compare the efficiencies on an even plane.

    Now, as that dynamic relates to AD and LeBron... defenses aren't paying Lebron any more attention than they are Davis. Perhaps even less since Davis outscored Lebron for the whole playoffs. Not 1 series. Whole playoffs. So it's actually even disingenuous for me to compare AD's numbers to Pau's because he's getting them in a first option role, but even with the added defensive pressure, he STILL outperforms Pau which means it's a rout of a comparison. AD is way better.

    Wrong.

    Pau scored more of his points in crunch time.


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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Wrong.

    Pau scored more of his points in crunch time.

    Nope... whole playoff run. Kobe's numbers facing the suns or nuggets or spurs blew Pau's away.

    You don't get to pick one series per year... gotta use them all.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    AD>Pau that is obvious. In the playoffs, AD was better than LeBron too

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Nope... whole playoff run. Kobe's numbers facing the suns or nuggets or spurs blew Pau's away.

    You don't get to pick one series per year... gotta use them all.

    wait finals dont matter now?

    thought was all about dat finals record?

    the post you responded to was finals, btw

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog View Post
    AD>Pau that is obvious. In the playoffs, AD was better than LeBron too
    No he wasn’t coach. You wouldn’t be pooping your Jordan Jammies if that was the case.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    No he wasn’t coach.
    This guy goes thread to thread calling me "coach". I'm not your friend dude

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Wrong.

    Pau scored more of his points in crunch time.

    29% and 30%? Damn.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    If Pau had played with LeBron, he would score more.

    If AD played with Kobe, he would score less, and get more offensive rebounds.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el View Post
    If Pau had played with LeBron, he would score more.

    If AD played with Kobe, he would score less, and get more offensive rebounds.
    Don't bring logic into this. These people think PPG numbers occur in vacuums.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el View Post
    If Pau had played with LeBron, he would score more.

    If AD played with Kobe, he would score less, and get more offensive rebounds.
    Gasol took the same shots in LA as he did as the #1 option in Memphis. You think Gasol is going to be taking a significantly more amount of shots under Bran ball? What a joke.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku View Post
    Gasol took the same shots in LA as he did as the #1 option in Memphis. You think Gasol is going to be taking a significantly more amount of shots under Bran ball? What a joke.

    Kyrie’s ppg peaked under Bran Ball, why wouldn’t Gasols?

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku View Post
    Gasol took the same shots in LA as he did as the #1 option in Memphis. You think Gasol is going to be taking a significantly more amount of shots under Bran ball? What a joke.
    For real.

    Pau averaged 18-20 ppg in Memphis but he'd be 30 ppg AD with bran... a low post non face up non floor stretching to the 3 pt line big. When Bynum took over the low post role in 2011 full time, and Pau had to play face up from long range, Pau SUCKED. He was getting his ass kicked by guys like Carl Landry in the first round and Dirk of course baptized him H2H in the 2nd. That face up style is EXACTLY how Bosh and Love used to play, and so it's totally reasonable to conclude that there would be a negative regression playing with Lebron instead of the positive one he had playing with Kobe. (in the post...)

    Lebron has never played with a low post big man... all of the all stars he's recruited over the years were face up with good long range ie ~ Jamison, Love, Bosh, and AD. He's never played inside out with a dominant post player that would be clogging his driving lanes as well.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    AD is a full tier above gasol.



    What's your point OP? Lebron this year was still better than any version of kobe.

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    Default Re: AD scored on 50+% higher volume than prime Pau

    Why is this thread so insecure. AD is a better player than Pau Gasol. Everyone knows that.

    Individually, Lebron James is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant. There's a valid argument but Lebron is a better player.

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