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    Derrick Favors on his contract with the Jazz. "I have a three year deal plan I plan that out and you know we'll see what happens." Maybe Jazz fans don't need to worry about the third year being a player option. @KSLSports
    I worry will still have Favors spotting up in the corner

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    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nba-fre...201834283.html

    3. Derrick Favors | Utah Jazz | 3 years, $30 million

    This one may be too heavily influenced by seeing Favors struggle to keep up while playing in the bubble. If he can get back to the solid player he was with the Jazz for many years, this contract is fine. Utah certainly needed a quality big to play with and behind Rudy Gobert and Favors has plenty of experience doing that. The worry is that Favors looked like he was cooked during the restart. If that holds true, the Jazz added some long-term money that they really donít need to have on the books.
    Not everyone is on board with Favors spotting up in the corner which is the real issue here not the bubble

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    People all up in my email telling me that Mitchell fleeced the Jazz. . you guys realize that Donovan was not the one negotiating right? I wish so badly that you could get into a room and negotiate an NBA deal. Spoiler alert* you wouldn't get a deal.
    We'll see. He's certainly not worth that deal at the moment but he might be one day?

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    https://hoopshabit.com/2020/11/24/ut...errick-favors/

    After nine seasons where Derrick Favors played his heart and soul out for the Utah Jazz, they traded him for two second-round picks. The world did not seem to be spinning on its right axis after that. Favors was the power forward for the Jazz, next to Rudy Gobert, and that is how things should be.

    as long as winning big isn't your goal I guess

    Well, like a true professional, Favors played for the Pelicans, moving over to the center slot for the first time in his career. As a result, he averaged a career-high 9.8 rebounds per game and showed that he is still a presence in the league.

    He was the center when Rudy emerged and was when Rudy didn't play

    The Jazz were 13th in the league in rebounding with 44.9 per game and while this is ok, they were 26th in offensive rebounds with 9.1 per game. For a team who take the outside shots the Jazz do, they need to be top-10 in this category.

    Bradley was the best in the league so I doubt this gets better

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    Rudy/Favors/Udoka/Gill
    O'Neale/Niang/Morgan/Brantley
    Bojan/Ingles/Oni
    Mitchell/Clarkson/Tucker/Hughes/Toolson
    Conley/William Goss/Forrest

    Mudiay, Wright Forman

    Batum, Robinson III

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    Robinson showed some 6th man ability last year maybe 3 and D? Too bad they have Clarkson!

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-...-nba-offseason

    With the shortened season heíll also likely get more chances to play. With there being more back to backs and even some possible scenarios with four games in five nights, the Jazz will likely need him more than last season.


    probably needed him more last year actually

    The Jazz also signed 6í4Ē 210 pound guard Trent Forrest. In 4 seasons at Florida State Forrest averaged 8.3 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.3 assists. His percentages arenít anything to write home about but he does have good size and athleticism. Probably the most interesting thing about him at Florida State was his 1.9 steals per game. Thereís some definite upside there on the defensive end. If he can figure out his shooting could he become a future defensive wing for the Jazz?

    or maybe a pg since that's what he plays?

    Being a first round pick it was easy to predict a contract signing for Azubuike, but for Hughes it was a little unclear what kind of contract he would get. Apparently it will be two years guaranteed.

    I really don't get it. Last years guys got some guaranteed money. Only Tucker got anything guaranteed this year and that's cause other teams wanted him. Is this guy better than Oni, Tucker, Brantley and Wright Forman? Seems disrespectful to them especially Brantley but all showed something last year at the NBA level

    Itís a sign that the Jazz really like Hughes. The Jazz have done this in the past with surprise contracts like this and it has worked out well with players like Royce OíNeale. Will Elijah Hughes be the next Jazz success story? It seems likely when you look at that beautiful jumpshot.

    the 34 % says otherwise
    As far as Azubuike this is expected. Azubuike will likely get some nice minutes this season with the shortened schedule and will hopefully step in and provide the rim-rolling and rim protection right away.

    hoping for that means Favors or Gobert aren't playing unless you're talking the Stars where him and Hughes will get to carry Gleague 1st teamer Brantley's bags

    We likely wonít see something in the next day or so with Thanksgiving but if days and days start going by this may become a bigger story.


    have more than 3 weeks. Settle down

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    Rudy/Favors/Udoka/Gill
    O'Neale/Niang/Morgan/Brantley
    Bojan/Ingles/Oni
    Mitchell/Clarkson/Hughes/Tucker/Toolson
    Conley/William Goss/Forrest

    Mudiay, Wright Forman

    Batum, Robinson III

    So 10 guaranteed deals, 2 two ways, 4 non guaranteed, 1 partial, 2 exhibit 10's, 2 free agents and two players the Jazz are rumored to have interest in. Need more vets. They obviously don't think as much of Oni, Tucker and Morgan as has been reported. Might as well get some vets. Have enough young guys that won't play already.

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    https://kslsports.com/446986/jazz-fa...e-five-things/

    When the Jazz drafted Mitchell in 2017, they werenít expecting to be getting a max-level player who would one day sign an enormous contraction extension that would keep the franchise competitive for the next half-decade.

    Competitive assuming the franchise player is also signed

    If I told you newly drafted Elijah Hughes would be worth a max-level deal in three seasons while averaging better than 20 points per game for his career, you wouldnít ask me what contract stipulations existed in the negotiation. Youíd just be thrilled the Jazz hit a homerun on another late draft pick.

    Just hoping he's worth the roster spot he's taking the next two seasons possibly over guys that have already shown something at the NBA and Gleague level

    Jazz fans, you have a very rare star in Mitchell, be thankful for him.

    There's a lot of guys scoring a lot of points on a lot of shots and not playing much D. He's got a lot to prove yet

    In 2017, the Jazz lost Gordon Hayward, one of the best players the franchise had seen since Karl Malone and John Stockton left the state in 2003. Instead of going in the tank, the Jazz made three consecutive playoff runs in Haywardís absence under Gail Millerís watchful eye.

    because the best player they've ever had besides Stockton and Malone is still here! Thanks ownership?

    Yes, drafting Mitchell helped, and luck came with that. But the Jazz identified Mitchell as a target early in the draft process because the Miller family allowed their work ethic to blend seamlessly with Dennis Lindsey and Justin Zanikís concept on team building.

    It sounds like mostly they identified him because he was out of their draft range yet wanted to workout for them anyway. Guys that want to be in Utah they like rather they should or not
    Smith has big shoes to fill, but his willingness to spend more than $250 million extending Mitchell, and re-signing both Jordan Clarkson and Derrick Favors within the first three days of his first free agency is extremely promising.

    Paying tax for the team they have especially Clarkson and Favors spotting up in the corner is scary! Last time they paid tax it was similarly spent stupidly

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    https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/...e-agency-draft

    The Utah Jazz spent the last week working to beef up on the defensive side while retaining the firepower they gained last season.

    and still not having a starting 4 unless it's Favors spotting up from 3. That will make the offense worse certainly.

    The hope is that by running the team back from last season, while increasing the interior defense and depth of the bench, the Jazz will be positioned to be better than they were for the 2020-21 campaign, which kicks off in less than a month.

    What are they better positioned for? A first round matchup assuming it's a team they matchup well against because they didn't answer their biggest issues: starting 4, size, versatility, D, depth...

    The biggest question for the Nuggets this season will be whether or not theyíll have a competent defense after losing a significant portion of the length and depth on that end of the floor that served them very well in last seasonís playoffs.

    Didn't have a competent D last year yet still beat the Jazz because of their size which the Jazz addressed with Favors spotting up in the corner!

    They lost Seth Curry, Delon Wright and Justin Jackson, but the Mavs drafted basically all the players that Jazz fans were coveting. Rookies Josh Green, Tyrell Terry and Tyler Bey will join Josh Richardson, James Johnson and Wes Iwundu as the newest members of a Mavs team that was already rising through the Western Conference ranks.

    Jazz fans were wrong about the 1st pick as were you. Not sure what to make of the 2nd pick though

    Will Zion Williamson become the star he was promised under the tutelage of Stan Van Gundy? New Orleans is certainly hoping so.

    He's already a star. Can he stay n the floor?

    Not a lot of moves, but you know the saying: if it ainít broke, donít fix it.

    The Jazz are broke and they didn't fix it

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    https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/...ces-offseason/

    For non-Jazz fans, these signings arenít exactly juicy Ė some might even say boring. But these moves are huge for a Jazz team that now looks like they could push for a top-3 seed in the West.

    could also push for the lottery. All they have to do is pay tax and let Clarkson gun and Favors spot up in the corner!

    Jordan Clarkson brings the ability to have a second scorer on the floor and is someone that doesnít need the ball to be effective. By trading Dante Exum for Clarkson, the Jazz offense immediately went from a clunky struggle-fest (106 offensive rating) to a high-powered juggernaut that could blow teams off the floor (117 offensive rating).

    The problem is if he's on the floor with Mitchell, Conley, Bojan and Rudy and still thinks he's the number 1 option which he certainly does! Mudiay, Bradley and Niang were part of the improved bench but let's keep saying it was one guy!

    Keeping Clarkson to play alongside Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley and Bojan Bogdonovic guarantee that the Jazz will have high-level scoring on the floor at all times.

    Which as we saw in the bubble without Bojan wasn't their problem

    The Jazz will have to use Gobert and Favors together again if they want to combat big teams like the Lakers and Nuggets, which gives me some pause because the offense sputtered with those two before. However, if you consider Utah now has two of the best catch and shoot 3-point shooters (Conley and Bogdanovic) on the team plus an improved Donovan Mitchell, thereís reason to believe that lineup could be great on both ends of the floor.

    the offense won't be great with Favors spotting up in the corner

    The Utah Jazz by no means made the splashiest moves this offseason, but they didnít need to. By re-signing Jordan Clarkson and getting back Derrick Favors, itís clear the Jazz front office believes theyíre close to a championship run.


    then clearly they need a new front office!

    The Jazz roster is very deep and very flexible, able to maneuver tactics against other Western Conference contenders. Whether or not they can push the Lakers for the title will depend more on the continued growth of Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley within Quin Snyderís system. The Jazz were successful this offseason simply by not getting worse Ė but if you look closer, the Jazz actually got much better.

    Deep and flexible yet no starting 4 outside of Favors spotting up in the corner, only 3 or 4 guys that play D, small backcourt. Much better? They are arguably better but the offense certainly got worse and they didn't really address their issues form last year other than Favors spotting up in the corner!

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    https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/...anksgiving/15/

    The Utah Jazz might be heading into an awkward situation with Rudy Gobert next offseason but the good news is that they have Donovan Mitchell locked in for the foreseeable future with the team. Mitchell has emerged as the teamís best player and was explosive during the NBAís restart.

    When he can carry the team without Rudy I'll believe he's their best player. I'll take the guy that has carried them at both ends of the floor for nearly 6 years until he does though

    Now that heís locked in, the Jazz will have some insurance if Gobert elects to leave during free agency next offseason.

    have fun with the tank!

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    David Locke: Donovan Mitchell says he will be working with new Jazz coach Keyon Dooling. He shares they have been connected since his rookie year.
    – via Twitter Lockedonsports


    now we know why Dooling got hired
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