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Decent college freshman
If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
What other options do they have? I find that certain players in this camp are forced to become volume scoring chuckers:
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Michael Jordan
Donovan Mitchell
All are guys that basically:
-love to iso score
-cant pass
-cant shoot 3s
If they developed better leadership and/or a 3-point shot and were able to develop passing skills could they have opened up their game more?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
Ball-dominators that average 9+ assists hurt ball-movement and TEAM assists
The only exceptions are elite shooters that can play the off-ball "shooter" role (nash).. or guys that aren't the best player on their team (magic with kareem)
Otherwise, 5-7 assists is optimal to maximize ball movement, brand and therefore winning
Guys that average 5-7 apg have way more rings (mj, kobe, bird, durant, kawhi, curry), than high-assist ball-dominators (nash, cp3, magic, lebron, westbrook, harden)
So personal APG is an overrated stat... team apg is a much bigger driver for winning than personal APG (which can hurt winning)
Last edited by 3ball; 11-21-2020 at 02:59 PM.
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Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
The key designation of a chucker is INEFFICIENCY...if all you do is iso and shoot 25 jumpshots a game...but make 60 percent of them, then are aren't a chucker.
A good example of a chucker is AI, tons of shots on bad percentages. but Kobe and MJ are terrible examples.
MJ averaged 35/7/7 in the playoffs from 85-93 on elite efficiency.
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Pandemic: LeCOVID3-6
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
Jordan, AI and Kobe are all capable of passing. Gtfo low iq having troll (Jesus how many of these do we have on ISH)
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Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
 Originally Posted by Shooter
What other options do they have? I find that certain players in this camp are forced to become volume scoring chuckers:
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Michael Jordan
Donovan Mitchell
All are guys that basically:
-love to iso score
-cant pass
-cant shoot 3s
If they developed better leadership and/or a 3-point shot and were able to develop passing skills could they have opened up their game more?
What a troll
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Local High School Star
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
 Originally Posted by Bronbron23
What a troll 
Well Kobe and Jordan must of been doing something right they both got at least 5 titles off their chucking
My bad on quoting you
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Decent playground baller
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
He said AI can't shoot lol
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2020 InsideHoops ROTY
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
 Originally Posted by Gohan
Well Kobe and Jordan must of been doing something right they both got at least 5 titles off their chucking
Duh, they had the goat coach dude.
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Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
AI actually wasn't a bad passer. He just refused to pass.
MJ was a great passer. These kids act like they watched MJ play. He had amazing court vision, timing, and could spread the floor when he wanted to or needed to.
People forget he played in the triangle. And prior to that he dropped 10.4 assists when given the PG role under Doug Collins. But yea, carry on with the lies.
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I go HAM
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
Great question. Chuckers with minimal passing abilities have no choice but to shoot a lot. You forgot to mention guys like
-Monta Ellis
-Jerry Stackhouse
along with MJ, Kobe, Iverson, Mitchell, Anthony
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Decent playground baller
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
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I go HAM
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hypocrits
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
it depends quite a bit on the offense that is being run and on a few other mitigating factors; for instance, in the triangle offense the primary scorer, which in most cases is the off guard, does a ton of off-ball work in order to free himself open for the shot, he expends more energy than the other players within the half-court set, and therefore has earned more of a right to take the shot in a given play, but it also depends on how good of a shooter and how efficient of a scorer the scorer is, such that they might not be chucking the ball. If the player cannot convert the shots at a sufficient rate then he would actually be doing his team a disservice.
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hypocrits
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
Michael might have missed a career worst 8 in a row back in 1987, and he might have struggled to make more than 6 straight, but you're blatantly wrong about Michael Jordan.
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hypocrits
Re: If you're an iso scorer that can't pass aren't you technically bound to chucking?
Jerry Stackhouse built a house.
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