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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Bumboclat
Seriously I don't know how people have Russell over Wilt all time as the data about the two matchups shows that Wilt would usually own Russell but it didn't even matter as the rest of the Celtics would destroy his crap supporting cast. which would usually give the Celtics the win no matter how well Wilt played on both ends for his teams.
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The Bearded Menace
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by GrayGoat
Literally every finals went to 7 games with Wilt and Russell.
What? It was only one as far as I'm concerned which was 1969, unless you're talking about pre-finals matchups.
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Nope... An 8 HOF deficit is insurmountable
Indeed it is imagine Lebron facing twice the amount of hall of famers and a far better coach with Love being his best teammate for most of those years he would lose every year no matter how well he plays and remember that was what Wilt was facing every single year of his prime.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by coastalmarker99
Seriously I don't know how people have Russell over Wilt all time as the data about the two matchups shows that Wilt would usually own Russell but it didn't even matter as the rest of the Celtics would destroy his crap supporting cast. which would usually give the Celtics the win no matter how well Wilt played on both ends for his teams.
There's no way Russell was anywhere near Wilt
Wilt's athleticism was otherworldly, yet he led the league in assists because he felt like it...
People praise lebron for finally leading the league in assists this year, but Wilt did that too.. there was nothing he couldn't do
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
There's no way Russell was anywhere near Wilt
Wilt's athleticism was otherworldly, yet he led the league in assists because he felt like it...
People praise lebron for finally leading the league in assists this year, bit Wilt did that too.. there was nothing he couldn't do
He lost chips because he felt like it. His production dropped 12ppg in the finals because he felt like it
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by GrayGoat
He lost chips because he felt like it. His production dropped 12ppg in the finals because he felt like it
No, but it took the whole league to beat him
An 8-team league where all the good players were on 1 team.. just to face wilt
Last edited by 3ball; 11-23-2020 at 09:55 PM.
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
There's no way Russell was anywhere near Wilt
Wilt's athleticism was otherworldly, yet he led the league in assists because he felt like it...
People praise lebron for finally leading the league in assists this year, but Wilt did that too.. there was nothing he couldn't do
I have researched Wilt's 1968 season stats his last mvp year and the year he lead the league in assists as well and he was top 5 in every single stat in the league that year including steals that is insane individual dominance.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by coastalmarker99
I have researched Wilt's 1968 season stats his last mvp year and the year he lead the league in assists as well and he was top 5 in every single stat in the league that year including steals that is insane individual dominance.
Exactly.. he won a title as a center leading the league in assists!!!
Unheard of
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
No, but it took the whole league to beat him
An 8-team league where all the good players were on 1 team
Wilt's scoring dropped in the 1969 finals because one he barely took any shots as Baylor and West were the ones taking every single shot that series and that was a big mistake as Baylor was completely garbage on both ends for the Lakers that finals.
And two Wilt was frozen out of the offence by his coach that year as his coach hated his guts which as a result forced him to only be a garbage man on offence that series like a Dennis Rodman. Which was a massive mistake by Vbk as Wilt was still a great scorer and he showed that the very next season before he got hurt as he was averaging over 30 points a game before his injury against the suns.
And three Wilt was the key reason why the Lakers had the best defence throughout the 1969 playoffs so I blame Vbk and Baylor more then I blame Wilt for losing those finals against the Celtics in 1969.
Last edited by coastalmarker99; 11-23-2020 at 10:06 PM.
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Exactly.. he won a title as a center leading the league in assists!!!
Unheard of
When Wilt was allowed by his teams to only focus on playing the Russell role his teams would end up winning the title and doing it in such dominant fashion that both the 1967 Sixers and 1972 Lakers are widely viewed as being two of the top 7 teams of all time and also being better then any of Russell's 11 title-winning teams.
Russell even admitted that a Wilt who was 36 years old and who had suffered major knee injuries was doing his role better then he ever could. Like cmon, we all know deep down that if Wilt was on the Celtics instead of Russell they would have been far more dominant as a team and would have won 70 plus games some seasons.
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I don't flop.
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by GrayGoat
By your own admission if you are good enough to make the finals you are good enough to win the chip. I’m not even including the single digit wins
Good enough to come out of the weakest eastern conferences in NBA history? Ok.
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Exactly.. he won a title as a center leading the league in assists!!!
Unheard of
Where do you rank Wilt all time?
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College superstar
Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
A team wins 11 championships with similar players nearly every starter is getting into the HoF, how is that a way to discredit the team?
Some guy said earlier 9 points separate the other team from winning 5 championships apparently. So if they'd made that difference and won 5 they would have got more players in the HoF due to being 4-5 time champions... Does that make them more than 9 points better players?
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by Hittin_Shots
A team wins 11 championships with similar players nearly every starter is getting into the HoF, how is that a way to discredit the team?
Some guy said earlier 9 points separate the other team from winning 5 championships apparently. So if they'd made that difference and won 5 they would have got more players in the HoF due to being 4-5 time champions... Does that make them more than 9 points better players?
Well said and Wilt did play with a loaded team let’s stop playing cute
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Re: What if MJ allowed a rival opponent to 8-peat
Originally Posted by GrayGoat
Well said and Wilt did play with a loaded team let’s stop playing cute
That's bs he only got play for a loaded team for two seasons and that was the 1967 76ers and the 1968 76ers but even than the 1968 sixers all got hurt in the playoffs which is the reason they failed to defend their title.
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