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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneyROY7 View Post
    "Not one found that Obama initiated or meddled in the FBI’s work. Not one concluded that the FBI lacked good reason to launch the investigation.

    Multiple independent investigations, including a series of bipartisan Senate reports, found no political influence over the FBI investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election."

    Yes, they do.
    Look at the list above of the people unmasking Flynn, they were all part of the Obama administration. Biden himself was the one to make the last request ffs.

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    "No evidence showed Obama, or any member of the White House, directed counterintelligence agents to illegally monitor the Trump campaign, nor did any court record show that the former president breached his authority as president during the FBI's Russia investigation."

    I'm sorry that the reports don't match up with your perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneyROY7 View Post
    "No evidence showed Obama, or any member of the White House, directed counterintelligence agents to illegally monitor the Trump campaign, nor did any court record show that the former president breached his authority as president during the FBI's Russia investigation."

    I'm sorry that the reports don't match up with your perception.
    Exactly, they certified their own spying through a commission.

    Even if they say that it was justified, because they had evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, it still means that they spied and had access to communications of the Trump campaign.

    Look at the documents vs the wording of the statement you refer to - Biden, Brennan and others did the actual unmasking, not Obama.

    If you think that makes no sense, why would they spy on the Trump campaign through a former General, you can read here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ut-politicians

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    Exactly, they certified their own spying through a commission.

    Even if they say that it was justified, because they had evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, it still means that they spied and had access to communications of the Trump campaign.

    Look at the documents vs the wording of the statement you refer to - Biden, Brennan and others did the actual unmasking, not Obama.

    If you think that makes no sense, why would they spy on the Trump campaign through a former General, you can read here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ut-politicians
    I'm going to repeat this quote one more time.

    "No evidence showed Obama, or any member of the White House, directed counterintelligence agents to illegally monitor the Trump campaign."

    You might want to start focusing on claims that have more substantial evidence behind them. Things like this and the election fraud you're so heavily imbued to aren't working out so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneyROY7 View Post
    I'm going to repeat this quote one more time.

    "No evidence showed Obama, or any member of the White House, directed counterintelligence agents to illegally monitor the Trump campaign."

    You might want to start focusing on claims that have more substantial evidence behind them. Things like this and the election fraud you're so heavily imbued to aren't working out so well.
    Yes and your quote saying that they did it legally, the commission certifies the actions of spying.

    Look again, these are names of people who unmasked Flynn, it was declassified a while ago. Not agents of the FBI, but actual members of the Obama administration making the request for the information(there are documented meetings as well including Obama, taking place on the same day as the unmasking requests(they shared the information):




    If you don't think those documents are real you are welcome to look it up, there's plenty of articles about it, but you probably have to use Duckduckgo and not Google to get them on the first page.. This declassified information is something that the media said was categorically false for years, and something that people with your attitude screamed "conspiracy theorist" at other people - you're still trying to do that, which is just flat out ridiculous.

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    "The FBI — not Obama — launched the surveillance effort, and only a handful of counterintelligence agents knew the full scope of the mission, but no evidence showed they gave directions on how it was done. The investigators were acting on orders from FBI leaders — not the president."

    This is the last I'll post on this b/c I really don't have any interest in it, but I'm sure the conversation can be continued on 4chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneyROY7 View Post
    "The FBI — not Obama — launched the surveillance effort, and only a handful of counterintelligence agents knew the full scope of the mission, but no evidence showed they gave directions on how it was done. The investigators were acting on orders from FBI leaders — not the president."

    This is the last I'll post on this b/c I really don't have any interest in it, but I'm sure the conversation can be continued on 4chan.
    An amazing moment of cognitive dissonance. I've posted the documents showing the unmasking requests from people in the Obama administration, they're right there.


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    Fine, one more post.

    "Trump and his allies seized on the development and said it showed Biden and others improperly and illegally unmasked the former national security adviser's identity.

    A Washington Post report on Wednesday blew up that allegation when it revealed that Flynn's name was never "masked" in the first place.

    'When the FBI circulated [the report], they included Flynn's name from the beginning' because it was essential to understanding its significance, a former senior US official told The Post. 'There were therefore no requests for the unmasking of that information.'"

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    Globalization is a great thing.

    Lol at the provincial hicks who are afraid of globalization!

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    Contemporary politics 101

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hESLPB3FiyY

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneyROY7 View Post
    Fine, one more post.

    "Trump and his allies seized on the development and said it showed Biden and others improperly and illegally unmasked the former national security adviser's identity.

    A Washington Post report on Wednesday blew up that allegation when it revealed that Flynn's name was never "masked" in the first place.

    'When the FBI circulated [the report], they included Flynn's name from the beginning' because it was essential to understanding its significance, a former senior US official told The Post. 'There were therefore no requests for the unmasking of that information.'"
    On Wednesday, the intelligence community released a list of the people in the Obama administration who sought materials in which Flynn figured this way, though the National Security Agency said it couldn't assess whether everyone who'd requested such reports had actually seen them.

    A spokesman for Biden emphasized on Wednesday that because of the way "minimization" works, there was no way for officials in the Obama era to single out Flynn or anyone else as a part of these practices. They couldn't see the names of the "U.S. Persons" beforehand.

    They were working from reports about ongoing targets of surveillance — people such as Russia's then-ambassador to the United States.
    https://www.npr.org/2020/05/14/85582...nmasking-story

    Oh they didn't know they were unmasking him, but 9 members of the Obama administration just happen to do so.

    You know what they did with the information? They leaked parts of it to the press, the investigation started and Flynn couldn't be security advisor.
    Guess why he's a free man to this day(with the help of that crazy lawyer lady no less), because it was all bullshit, set up to get him out of the administration.

    And here's the thing, if they didn't need to unmask Flynn, it's because he was already under surveillance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Woke View Post
    Globalization is a great thing.

    Lol at the provincial hicks who are afraid of globalization!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hESLPB3FiyY

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hESLPB3FiyY

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    Shove your anti globalization propaganda up your ******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Woke View Post
    Shove your anti globalization propaganda up your ******.
    Haha such intelligent discourse.

    Im rooting fir globalism but who will be the heads of state?

    Science shows the chaos it is reaping.

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    I feel over the years how our government has fought each other and threw us citizens to the curb , or making us look like pathetic robotic followers with no brains ; instead of governing us to help us health wise, career wise and family wise has made a mess out of country.
    Biden might be the last chance our government can act bipartisan and get us back to being 'US' as in UNITED and become a legit player on the world stage instead of becoming enemies.

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