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“LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
LeBron just won a chip. What ceiling? Someone explain. Can a team go further than winning a chip?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Anthony Davis led the entire NBA in playoff scoring
the entire NBA, not just lebron
Pair him with most elite perimeter players and he chips
So again, lebron needs AD or 2 stars and is therefore a talent-based winner (due to inferior brand)
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Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
The ceiling is winning chips. That’s a low ceiling
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by GrayGoat
The ceiling is winning chips. That’s a low ceiling
Lebron needs extreme supporting talent to win though
Because his brand is poor
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Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by 3ball
Lebron needs extreme supporting talent to win though
Because his brand is poor
LeBron went back to back. Warriors never won 3 in a row. By your standard LeBron did cultivate a dynasty (Miami)
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Decent college freshman
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by 3ball
Anthony Davis led the entire NBA in playoff scoring
the entire NBA, not just lebron
Pair him with most elite perimeter players and he chips
So again, lebron needs AD or 2 stars and is therefore a talent-based winner (due to inferior brand)
AD was 7th in playoff scoring in ppg.
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Decent college freshman
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by 3ball
Lebron needs extreme supporting talent to win though
Because his brand is poor
He's won all of his titles without having a sidekick as good as Scottie Pippen. Your argument is poor.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
It's his style of play, which is ball-dominant, but it fits perfectly with today's league and he hasn't lost a significant step yet.
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College superstar
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by light
He's won all of his titles without having a sidekick as good as Scottie Pippen. Your argument is poor.
AD is better than Scottie dude. Specially in the playoffs.
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NBA Legend
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Lebron went 0-1 against Dirk, 1-2 against Duncan, 1-2 against Durant and 1-3 against Curry in playoffs, theres something about this fact. Clearly bronball does have a low ceiling, hence why his finals record is abysmal. But of course, if you make the finals enough often, you are bound to win some chips from time to time. Its impossible to build a dynasty with Lebron though, you cant 3-peat with him nor can you win 3-4 titles in 5-6 years with him.
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College superstar
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by Kiddlovesnets
Lebron went 0-1 against Dirk, 1-2 against Duncan, 1-2 against Durant and 1-3 against Curry in playoffs, theres something about this fact. Clearly bronball does have a low ceiling, hence why his finals record is abysmal. But of course, if you make the finals enough often, you are bound to win some chips from time to time. Its impossible to build a dynasty with Lebron though, you cant 3-peat with him nor can you win 3-4 titles in 5-6 years with him.
Truth.
But to be fair, Lebron does lift his teams floor higher than almost anyone in history. Which does make him an ATG.
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NBA Legend
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by Baller789
Truth.
But to be fair, Lebron does lift his teams floor higher than almost anyone in history. Which does make him an ATG.
Yeah, bronball is perhaps the best at raising the floor of your team. If you have Lebron, your chance to make the finals is significantly higher, but you have to withstand the fact that you are most likely an underdog in each finals series. You win titles by trying as many times in the finals, with a low success rate but if you are there enough often, you will win at least 1-2 titles.
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College superstar
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by Kiddlovesnets
Yeah, bronball is perhaps the best at raising the floor of your team. If you have Lebron, your chance to make the finals is significantly higher, but you have to withstand the fact that you are most likely an underdog in each finals series. You win titles by trying as many times in the finals, with a low success rate but if you are there enough often, you will win at least 1-2 titles.
This.
Plus collusions.
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Banned
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by 3ball
Lebron needs extreme supporting talent to win though
Because his brand is poor
But LeBron didn’t have any all stars in 2016?
And beat a 73 win team
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College superstar
Re: “LeBron brand puts a ceiling on teams”
Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway
But LeBron didn’t have any all stars in 2016?
And beat a 73 win team
He did have Kyrie right?
Just because they didn't play in the all-star game, doesn't mean they aren't 'stars'. Don't be mentally dishonest dude.
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