An FYI on 1-9..

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nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 16 of 23 teams made it (70%) - that's a much greater proportion than today's 16 of 30 teams (53%).

That means bad teams made the 7 or 8 seed that wouldn't make the playoffs today, like jordan's 30-40-win teams from 85-87', or lebron's 04/05/19 teams.. However, lebron's teams were lucky to miss the playoffs because of today's bigger league, which ultimately keeps riff-raff OUT of the playoffs so guys aren't forced to carry teams as bad as Jordan's.

So again, when comparing mj and lebron, the smaller league size hurt Jordan by forcing him to carry weaker teams in the playoffs than lebron had to... The smaller league forced Jordan's 30-40 win teams into the 8 vs 1 matchup, while the bigger league allowed lebron's 30-40 win teams to miss the playoffs.. accordingly, lebron didn't have to carry lottery seeds against the champs in 04' or 19' - he only faced playoff opponents with 50-win, high seeds and never had to carry bad lottery casts.. but since he lost by record amount with high seeds 3 times (or got swept), it's hard to fathom how bad he'd get smashed with low seeds, aka REAL bad casts, (like if his 04/05/19 teams made it)

And btw, the worst teams in the 80's East had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')

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Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 16 of 23 teams made it (70%), versus today's 16 of 30 teams (53%)...

Therefore, if 70% of today's teams made the playoffs, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

But lebron only faced those opponents with 50-win, high seeds (he only made the playoffs with developed high seeds), not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan was forced into by the smaller league.. so lebron was lucky that he never carried teams as bad as Jordan in the playoffs or against really good teams like the 86' Celtics or 19' Warriors.. only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept his 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's lottery casts were forced into the 8 seed.

And those bad teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[8Ball]

1-9 = No pip no chip.

1-9 = Being swept 3 years in a row in the 1st round.

1-9 = Not good enough to get better than the 8 seed.

[Axe]

[3ball]

1-9 = Not good enough to get better than the 8 seed.

Lebron got the 9 seed 3 times

1-9 = No pip no chip.

Pippen's 8 points had nothing to do with the team being better in 88' - it was Jordan's improvement to MVP and DPOY that caused the improvement.

1-9 = Being swept 3 years in a row in the 1st round.

Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 70% of teams made it, versus today's 53%...

if 70% of today's teams made the playoffs, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

But lebron only faced those opponents with 50-win, high seeds (he only made the playoffs with developed high seeds), not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan was forced into by the smaller league.. only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's lottery casts were forced into the 8 seed.... so lebron was lucky that he never carried teams as bad as Jordan in the playoffs or against really good teams like the 86' Celtics or 19' Warriors..

And those bad teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[2ball]

No Pip no chip

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No Pip no chip

Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 70% of teams made it, versus today's 53%...

But if 70% of teams made it today, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's 30-40 win casts were forced into the 8 seed by a smaller league.. so lebron only faced playoff opponents with developed high seeds, not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan.. Yet lebron still went 1-9 against champs with 2 seeds in 07' and 14', so that's worse than Jordan's 1-9 with 8 seeds.

Btw, teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

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1-9

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1-9

1-9 for Lebron

With 2 seeds... Not 8 seeds

Lol.. lebron is utter trash compared to Jordan

[And1AllDay]

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1-9 for Lebron

With 2 seeds... Not 8 seeds

Lol.. lebron is utter trash compared to Jordan

You have been on a 6 year crusade against LeBron. You know he’s not trash with that kind of dedication

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You have been on a 6 year crusade against LeBron. You know he’s not trash with that kind of dedication

Haha I stopped your 1-9 response

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MJ wins and defeats lebron stans itt

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only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out of the 8 seed, while Jordan's 30-40 win casts were forced into the 8 vs 1 matchup by a smaller league.. so lebron only faced playoff opponents with developed high seeds, not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan.. Yet lebron still went 1-9 against champs with 2 seeds in 07' and 14', so that's worse than Jordan's 1-9 with 8 seeds... And if you want to say "well it's better to make the Finals", then let's talk Finals, aka 6/6

Btw, teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..