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    Default Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    And wasn't some flawless career that people make it out to be.

    Debunking the “Tim Duncan had a flawless career” narrative once and for all.(THREAD)



    2001 WCF

    Has Homecourt Advantage

    Down 2-0 scores 12ppg on 33% FG in the next 2 games

    Game 3

    Season on the line drops 9 points on 21%FG to go down 3-0 and basically loses the series.

    Robinson had 24 on 56%

    Game 4
    1 point in the 2nd half of an elimination game

    Horrendous



    2002 WCSF

    Spurs lead by halftime in 4/5 Games and by the end of the 3rd Q in 3/5 games, but still lose in 5 due to his inability to close games out

    2nd Halves

    Duncan shoots 37%FG | 45%TS

    4th Quarters

    Duncan shoots 38%FG | 44%TS

    Last 4 games of the 2004 WCSF after the Spurs went up 2-0

    TD: 18/14/4 on 38%FG | 47%TS

    Spurs lose all 4 games

    10pts on 29%FG in game 3 failing to go up 3-0

    Blows a double digit lead in game 4 allowing the Lakers to tie

    Shoots 22%FG in the 2nd half of the elimination game

    In 2005 Tim Duncan arguably wasn’t even the best player on his team.

    Manu performed so well while Duncan underperformed offensively that even members of the Spurs organization said Manu was the true FMVP.



    2006 WCSF

    Had Homecourt advantage and more help than Dirk

    Goes 1-7 in overtime of game 7 and fails to repeat and defend his title AGAIN.

    1 of 2 times dirk would beat him without home court advantage.

    2007: WCSF Amar'e Stoudemire gets suspended in game 4.

    Suns countered by saying that Duncan and Bruce Bowen were guilty of a similar leaving the bench offense in Game 4.

    Duncan should have not been playing either

    Finals:
    Last 2 games: 13 ppg 31% FG.
    Vs terrible Cavs team

    2008:

    Still considered a top big man in the league.

    However underperformed and failed to defend his title AGAIN

    WCSF
    TD: 15/13/3 42%FG

    Game 7
    5-17 FG | 0pts (0-6 FG) in 4th
    Outscored by 5 players And Tied game high in TO

    CARRIED.

    2008 WCF

    TD in the 4th quarters in the 3 close games

    Game 1
    8 PTS 2/4 FG 4/5 FT

    Game 3
    4 PTS 2/7 FG 0/0 FT

    Game 5
    6 PTS 1/4 FG 4/6 FT

    Overall
    18 PTS 5/15 FG 8/11 FT (45%TS)

    blew 2 large leads and lost in 5 to a depleted lakers team despite having more help.

    2010 WCSF

    bad defensive effort by Duncan as he gets swept

    outplayed badly young Dragic And blew a 18 point lead in Game 3 that could have turned the momentum in Favor of the Spurs

    2nd half of Game 4 with the game within 3
    Duncan shoots: 25%FG |29%TS
    Teammates: 47%FG | 63% TS

    2011: Lost in the first round to an 8th seed

    This is arguably his worst choke.
    Black small squareTD: 12/10 on 49% TS
    Black small squareGame 6 (elimination/close out game):
    12/10 on 35% FG
    Black small square 6th leading scorer through the whole out series.
    Black medium small square6 points in game 4 on 42% FG

    Completely out played by Zach Randolph


    2013:

    Game 7: blew an easy layup and the tip in following it that could have tied the game.

    Game 6: 4TH quarter + OT stats:
    0 points
    0-5
    0% FG

    Game 7:
    7 points on 33%

    Summary of Tim’s shortcomings:

    Black small squareCant defend his titles
    Black small squareChokes when it really matters
    Black small square Blows big leads
    Black small squareGets Carried
    Black small squareUnderperforms in 4th quarters

    Went from underrated to overrated so quick..
    WOW!

    Doubt anyone here has really done a deep dive into Timmy's career. Dude got so many lucky breaks throughout his career

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Exactly, iconic thread. Most overrated piece of shit of all time and plays like its the 1960s.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    And yet many NBA Hall of Famers call him the greatest forward ever. Makes you wonder if they're right, or the OP who spent way too much writing this trash take.

    Zack Randolph outplayed him by shooting 20% from 3P because Duncan was 0% LOL

    Idiot.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures



    1:17:38 - Kobe shoots a floater over Duncan

    1:20:20 - Kobe shits on Duncan with a midrange jumper in his face

    1:20:55 - Kobe drives right past Duncan and get an easy layup on him

    This is the defense of Duncan in a closeout game? Getting baptized. On top of that, he was shooting like trash.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Quote Originally Posted by biggestnbafan View Post
    And yet many NBA Hall of Famers call him the greatest forward ever. Makes you wonder if they're right, or the OP who spent way too much writing this trash take.

    Zack Randolph outplayed him by shooting 20% from 3P because Duncan was 0% LOL

    Idiot.
    Whoosh!

    I'll let you try again and think about what the point of this thread really is...

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    He spanked bran.

    1 shot away from a 3peat of titles.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    He spanked bran.

    1 shot away from a 3peat of titles.
    basketball gods just didn't want him to ever win finals mvp though.

    2007 - shot terrible against Big Z for some reason
    2013 - ray allen miracle shot but duncan also missed a layup in late game 7
    2014 - kawhi had to win it for him

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    So winning 5 rings in a career much much much longer than 5 years leaves a lot of losses and failures to point to if youre douchebag enough to think falling short of the glory of the lord is worth hating on? Shocking.

    Great..... even incredible things..... can have flaws. Hell lose the “can”. All things do have flaws. There are inherent issues letting a woman ride you in a car now that bench seats are gone but that doesn’t mean you tell a bad bitch she can’t. She getting curled up like fried shrimp if that’s what it takes.

    There are downsides to everything. Only jackasses obsess over them when the issue is something that is otherwise near perfection.


    Long post short? **** outta here. Nobody normal cares what Duncan shot in game Whatever in 2002 When there have only been 2 more successful people to enter the nba since the Korean War.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Well yeah... all NBA players have had some flaws in their career. Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, etc etc

    Tim Duncan's career is really close to perfect and he has one of the most decorated resumes ever. In 19 seasons, he never missed the playoffs, and won at least 50 games every season (In the '99 and '12 lockout seasons, Spurs still finished 1st in the West). That by itself is ridiculous. Then you add in all his accolades & awards and you see why he's one of the 10 best players ever and the GOAT PF.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    Whoosh!

    I'll let you try again and think about what the point of this thread really is...
    If this is what it now appears to be all I can say in my defense....I read like 6 lines and spoke most of my post into my phone while driving(poorly) and had no time to scan for hidden sarcasm or points.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    That's the nature of the playoffs. It's an up and down roller coaster. When you play that many games against the level of players and teams he has, you're gonna come up short.

    If you guys really sat back and looked at it, you will realize how ridiculous the standards are that you hold players to. If Duncan is playing in series against Kobe, Shaq, Dirk and guys like that you actually think he should play well every game and not be mediocre at times? He's playing in series with hall of famers on his team like Robinson, Parker, Ginobilii, you actually think he's not gonna get outplayed and carried at times?

    What is the imaginary gold standard you are looking for? You will probably think of a player that has even more failures that you just haven't investigated yet.

    You are supposed to fail in the playoffs if you face any kind of elite competition.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Quote Originally Posted by HBK_Kliq_2 View Post
    Exactly, iconic thread. Most overrated piece of shit of all time and plays like its the 1960s.
    Duncan >>> Kawhi

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Other than MJ, Everyone's career is riddled with failure by your stupid definition.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    If you did a deep dive like this for LeBron it would read a lot of the same stuff.

    Same for Kobe.

    Same for Shaq.

    Here's the main point, these guys aren't who they are because of the bad games, they have the reputations that they do because of what they did while willing.

    The only two people I don't think you could have much ammo on in a deep dive like this is Russell and MJ.

    Jordan might have like 3-5, over the entirety of his playoff career.

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    Default Re: Duncan's Career Was Riddled With Failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddlovesnets View Post
    Other than MJ, Everyone's career is riddled with failure by your stupid definition.
    MJ had to be bailed our by teammates and got carried in several crucial games in series.

    The point keeps going over your head.

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