The reversed 1-9 ratio; posters to alts

[KirbyPls]

Is 9-1 an accurate ratio of actual human posters to alt accounts here?

Higher? Lower?

Do alts act as Pippen, thereby allowing the original human poster to metaphorically chuck away, gamble of games, and punch teammates?

[3ball]

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it's random chance that Jordan's 30-40 win teams were in the 8 vs 1 matchup against the champion Celtics, while lebron's 30-40 win teams were 9 seeds and avoided the 04' Pistons or 19' Warriors.. lebron only had high seeds in the playoffs and never had to carry his really bad teams teams/low-seeds like Jordan did.

It's funny that Jordan is bad for needing an 8-point rookie to make the 2nd Round, but it's okay for lebron to miss the 05' playoffs with the East all-star center, and need further additions make it in 06' (the coy and a 22/5/5 all-defender).

Or it's bad for Jordan to go 1-9 with 8 seeds, but it's okay for lebron to go 3-16 with 2 seeds, including the goat choke, a sweep and the record loss

2ND OPTION EXAMPLE... 87' bulls (oakley) < 05' Cavs (all-star zydrunas)... but the 87' bulls randomly made the 8 seed and were forced to face the goat Celtics, while the 05' Cavs avoided the champion Pistons as the 9 seed.... again, lebron only made the playoffs with high seeds and didn't have to carry his worst teams as low seeds like Jordan did

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it's random chance that Jordan's 30-40 win teams were in the 8 vs 1 matchup against the champion Celtics, while lebron's 30-40 win teams were 9 seeds and avoided the 04' Pistons or 19' Warriors.. lebron only had high seeds in the playoffs and never had to carry his really bad teams teams/low-seeds like Jordan did.

It's funny that Jordan is bad for needing an 8-point rookie to make the 2nd Round, but it's okay for lebron to miss the 05' playoffs with the East all-star center, and need further additions make it in 06' (the coy and a 22/5/5 all-defender).

Or it's bad for Jordan to go 1-9 with 8 seeds, but it's okay for lebron to go 3-16 with 2 seeds, including the goat choke, a sweep and the record loss

2ND OPTION EXAMPLE... 87' bulls (oakley) < 05' Cavs (all-star zydrunas)... but the 87' bulls randomly made the 8 seed and were forced to face the goat Celtics, while the 05' Cavs avoided the champion Pistons as the 9 seed.... again, lebron only made the playoffs with high seeds and didn't have to carry his worst teams as low seeds like Jordan did

You’re a Lunatic.

[3ball]

You’re a Lunatic.

That's what I want you to say...

[8Ball]

Jordan's success will forever be tied to 1 human.

Scottie Pippen

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PLAYOFFS PPG

1988 McHale.... 25.4
1988 Bird.......... 24.5

2011 Wade...... 24.5
2011 Lebron.... 23.7

2020 AD........... 27.8
2020 Lebron.... 27.7

2016 Kyrie....... 25.8
2016 Lebron.... 26.2

Jordan's success will forever be tied to 1 human.

Scottie Pippen

It's goat because Jordan was the first guy that didn't have a "jordan" teammate to lead the team in scoring, and only had a pippen (someone that averaged 10-30 less in every series)

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PLAYOFFS PPG

1988 McHale.... 25.4
1988 Bird.......... 24.5

2011 Wade...... 24.5
2011 Lebron.... 23.7

2020 AD........... 27.8
2020 Lebron.... 27.7

2016 Kyrie....... 25.8
2016 Lebron.... 26.2




It's goat because Jordan was the first guy that didn't have a "jordan" teammate to lead the team in scoring, and only had a pippen (someone that averaged 10-30 less in every series)

MJ needed Pippen to lead in all categories except scoring. That’s a burden

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MJ needed Pippen to lead in all categories except scoring. That’s a burden

Magic, Stockton, Isiah, Lebron and many others led their team in assists every time

Jordan is the only player that always led scoring

And he led in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside pippen with more career apg and assist percentage in RS and PO.. he also got more dpoy votes every year except 96/97

(btw, Wade actually led lebron in assists for numerous series)

[AirBonner]

Magic, Stockton, Isiah, Lebron and many others led their team in assists every time

Jordan is the only player that always led scoring

And he led in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside pippen with more career apg and assist percentage in RS and PO.. he also got more dpoy votes every year except 96/97

(btw, Wade actually led lebron in assists for numerous series)

LeBron played off-ball with Wade something you said LeBron can’t do. You have come full circle now. You dup

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LeBron played off-ball with Wade something you said LeBron can’t do. You have come full circle now. You dup

A couple possessions doesn't count - Lebron didn't play off-ball like Kawhi or Curry and still had a PG time of possession (hold time) like chalmers

So his teams always have 2 players on the floor with a PG hold time (2 PG lineup).. teammates have less hold-time and assists in 2 PG lineups than traditional 1-PG lineups, so the TEAM ranks low in assists and struggles on the championship level

[sdot_thadon]

Is 9-1 an accurate ratio of actual human posters to alt accounts here?

Higher? Lower?

Do alts act as Pippen, thereby allowing the original human poster to metaphorically chuck away, gamble of games, and punch teammates?

Correct. Gotta feeling they exist so that posters can hopefully Paxson or Kerr their way to winning a debate or in a dire situation maybe Ray Allen them into a draw....

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Correct. Gotta feeling they exist so that posters can hopefully Paxson or Kerr their way to winning a debate or in a dire situation maybe Ray Allen them into a draw....

Funny how lebron needed a HOF to make that shot, while Jordan elevated role players

Jordan's fearlessness was contagious, so role players sought their "jordan" moment, while Lebron's jitters prevent role player elevation in the key moments (donyell, korver, hill, many more)

[sdot_thadon]

Funny how lebron needed a HOF to make that shot, while Jordan elevated role players

Jordan's fearlessness was contagious, so role players sought their "jordan" moment, while Lebron's jitters prevent role player elevation in the key moments (donyell, korver, hill, many more)

So, answer me this one question: was Ray playing at a hall of fame level in 2014? Or just a role player level?

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Comparing Sidekick Help While Trying to 3-Peat


PLAYOFFS

14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


Per 100 Possessions

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg

So, answer me this one question: was Ray playing at a hall of fame level in 2014? Or just a role player level?

Ray didn't need to be HOF in 2014 because Wade produced at higher level in the playoffs than 93' Pippen (above), and the Heat had a 4th HOF teammate in Bosh (Bosh was marginalized in lebron-ball, so he couldn't average 19-20 as 3rd option like Klay, Montrezl, or other 3rd options)

However, Ray led the 13' Heat in Finals net rating (team ortg - team drtg while on floor), whereas lebron was negative

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Comparing Sidekick Help While Trying to 3-Peat


PLAYOFFS

14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


Per 100 Possessions

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg






Ray didn't need to be HOF in 2014 because Wade produced at higher level in the playoffs than 93' Pippen (above), and the Heat had a 4th HOF teammate in Bosh (Bosh was marginalized in lebron-ball, so he couldn't average 19-20 as 3rd option like Klay, Montrezl, or other 3rd options)

However, Ray led the 13' Heat in Finals net rating (team ortg - team drtg while on floor), whereas lebron was negative

A simple yes or no would do.