Comparing GOATs in Playoffs:

[coastalmarker99]

Jordan vs. LeBron: Individual in POs

Each w/ 13 PO runs

Ranks based on WS/48, PER, BPM

Neither clearly better. Maybe slightly MJ >LBJ

Average rank:
12.9 MJ
13.8 LBJ

LBJ 2009 is best
MJ: 4 of the top 7

No correlation with winning:
7 of top 10 made Final
6 of LOWEST 10 in Final




Jordan vs. LeBron in POs: TEAMMATES

Close:
Ave rank WS/48:
12.8 LBJ's mates
14.2 MJ's

MJ's mates:
4 of the top 5
But the LOWEST 4, too.

Positive correlation of mate's WS/48 & rings/ Finals.

Over .127 WS/48
4x (4 rings) MJ's mates
1x (1 ring) LBJ's

Under .128 in Finals
8x LBJ
2x MJ


Overall, Jordan and LeBron had similar PO performances.

Overall, Jordan's teammates and LeBron's had similar PO performances.

Based on this, I can't clearly pick between Jordan and LeBron.

Wilt vs. Kareem: Individual in PLAYOFFS

POs
18 KAJ
13 Wilt

Ranks based on WS/48, PER, BPM

Wilt slightly > KAJ

Ave Rank
14.7 Wilt
16.4 KAJ

KAJ: 4 of top 6
Wilt: 6 of top 11

Age:
Wilt: Last 6 POs were his 6 worst
KAJ: Last 4 POs: 4 of lowest 6

No correlation w/ winning

Wilt vs. Kareem: TEAMMATES in POs

Shocking disparity!
KAJ's mates >>>>>>>Wilt's mates

KAJ's mates: Top 9 WS/48 POs!
Wilt's 8 of LOWEST 12

Ave rank
13 KAJ's
20 Wilt's

Correlated w/ winning
15 of top 19 in Final
1 of lowest 12 in Final

Mates below .124 in the Finals:
6x Wilt
3x KAJ

Overall, Wilt and Kareem had similar performances in playoffs.
Kareem had more top POs, but Wilt had more of the above-average POs.
On average, then, Wilt slightly > Kareem.

Kareem's teammates were MUCH BETTER than Wilt's.
So Kareem>Wilt based on winning in POs is UNFOUNDED.


Wilt vs. Russell: Individual in PO

WC>>>BR in the regular season.
WC dropped in PO; BR up

But still, there is a gap in PO: WC>>BR

13 POs each

Ranks based on WS/48, PER

Ave rank
11.1 Wilt
15.4 BR

Wilt: 6 of top 7

High ranking & making Finals is NOT positively correlated.

Wilt vs. Russell: TEAMMATES in POs

Shocking disparity!
BR's mates >>>>>>>WC's

BR's mates: Top 7 WS/48! 13 of top 18.
WC's: Lowest 8!

Ave rank:
8.8 BR's mates
18.2 WC's mates

High positive correlation of mates' WS/48 & winning:
17 of top 17 in Final
1 of lowest 9 in Final


Wilt was clearly better than Russell in playoffs according to WS/48 & PER.

Russell's teammates were MUCH BETTER than Wilt's.

So Russell>Wilt based on winning in POs is UNFOUNDED.

Wilt > Russell


Magic vs. Bird: Individual in POs

Ranks based on WS/48, PER, BPM

Clearly Magic>Bird

Magic:
11 of top 14
9.9 Ave

Bird:
9 of LOWEST 11
16.2 Ave

Interestingly, there IS a positive correlation of high ranking & winning:
14 of top 16 made Finals
0 of LOWEST 9 made Finals


Magic vs. Bird: TEAMMATES in POs

Ranking based on WS/48:

Close:
Magic's mates: 12.5 ave.
Top 2 and 8 of top 12

Bird's mates: 13.5 ave.
4 of top 6.

Interestingly, there's NOT a strong positive correlation of high mates' WS/48 and making Finals.


Overall, Magic clearly had better PO performances than Bird.

Overall, Magic's teammates and Bird's had similar PO performances.

Magic > Bird.

Overall in Playoffs: Summation:

Jordan = LeBron
Wilt = Kareem
Wilt > Russell
Magic > Bird

[Kiddlovesnets]

If we just compare the finals, you’d find out that MJ >> Lebron. Lebron dominated the east, MJ dominated the league.

[Stephonit]

Difference in level of opposition in the conferences matters.

[Axe]

Curry is nowhere to be found

[And1AllDay]

mike has no good rings

all weak rings

nope

bran > mike

100%

[Baller789]

mike has no good rings

all weak rings

nope

bran > mike

100%

Because you said so?

[Baller789]

Curry is nowhere to be found

Except in yo mind.

[StrongLurk]

Mike is still > Lebron, but the gap is closer than ever.

I agree Wilt>Bill Russell and Magic>Bird.

I'd take Kareem slightly over Wilt.

[8Ball]

Mike is still > Lebron, but the gap is closer than ever.

I agree Wilt>Bill Russell and Magic>Bird.

I'd take Kareem slightly over Wilt.

How so?

LeBron has more 30 PER deep playoff runs than Jordan does.

Has higher peak PER deep playoff runs than Jordan.

[Baller789]

How so?

LeBron has more 30 PER deep playoff runs than Jordan does.

Has higher peak PER deep playoff runs than Jordan.

4/10

[8Ball]

That's a team record.

Bron is individually better than Jordan.

[Baller789]

That's a team record.

Bron is individually better than Jordan.

So is Jordan's 1-9 invalid then?

[Baller789]

So is Jordan's 1-9 invalid then?

8ball:

[Stephonit]

Assigning everything to individual numbers in a team game = dumb.

You guys would pass on Bill Russell. No wonder you celebrate inferior players.

[8Ball]

So is Jordan's 1-9 invalid then?

Nope.

Stronglurk was talking and comparing individual playoff runs and LeBron has more and greater PER playoff runs.

4/10 doesn't apply to the argument and neither does 1/9 apply for individual playoff runs.

English not an easy language for you is it.