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    Cool Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Brady IS the system. Winner.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Bucs are loaded

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Bucs are loaded
    Brady makes them look loaded. They haven’t done shit without him

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Bucs are loaded
    Let's look at other SB winning QB's.

    Every SB winning QB's played on stacked teams, ****tard.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    The idiots who believed this in the first place didn’t even watch the pats to begin with. We had several different offenses

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Bucs are loaded
    Chiefs are way more loaded. No one discredits Mahomes. It's a ridiculous double standard that is applied only to Brady, because he has so many irrational haters.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Way better? LOL

    Mike Evans is the only WR is NFL history to start his career with 6 or 7 straight 1000 yard seasons. He did that with a bunch of QBs that are bad throwing his the rock.

    Godwin is a pro bowl talent and producer. And will be paid as such this off season.

    Antonio Brown is the best #3 option in the NFL.

    Gronk and Brate are a solid TE duo and the Fournette and ROJO combo on the backfield has proven to be a steady and in ROJOs case explosive one.

    Much better RB situation than Mahommes has.

    Bucs OLINE is better too. They're one of the best units in the NFL.

    KC has the most unique weapon and the best receiving TE in football but as a whole, to suggest that Mahommes has way better supporting cast on offense is not true.

    I said from day 1 when Brady went to TB he was surrounded by a top five weapon unit, and that was before they got Gronk and Antonio Brown and drafted Tristan Whirfs.

    It shouldn't be used to discredit either one, you just have to keep in mind when discussing QB rankings that not everyone gets the same circumstances.

    It's why Rodgers is so high on my list. Maybe #1.

    They haven't given up anywhere near the type of weapons that Brady currently has or Mahommes has had but he puts up MVP seasons.

    DeVante is excellent now, but he wasn't always like this. His first contract in the NFL I don't think he cracked 1000 yards. It's only recently he became a #1.

    And after him it's not much on paper. Lazard, Valdez Scantling and no name tight ends or washed up tight ends (Jimmy Graham)

    He has always had a great pass protecting line though. That is worth a lot. Go watch a Jets game sometime and see their QBs running around for their life, then switch to a Packers game and see Rodgers standing in there patting the ball for 5 seconds at times.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    Way better? LOL

    Mike Evans is the only WR is NFL history to start his career with 6 or 7 straight 1000 yard seasons. He did that with a bunch of QBs that are bad throwing his the rock.

    Godwin is a pro bowl talent and producer. And will be paid as such this off season.

    Antonio Brown is the best #3 option in the NFL.

    Gronk and Brate are a solid TE duo and the Fournette and ROJO combo on the backfield has proven to be a steady and in ROJOs case explosive one.

    Much better RB situation than Mahommes has.

    Bucs OLINE is better too. They're one of the best units in the NFL.

    KC has the most unique weapon and the best receiving TE in football but as a whole, to suggest that Mahommes has way better supporting cast on offense is not true.

    I said from day 1 when Brady went to TB he was surrounded by a top five weapon unit, and that was before they got Gronk and Antonio Brown and drafted Tristan Whirfs.
    Hilarious how you proceed to name all the Bucs weapons, but no where in that post did you mention Hill for KC, a better WR than anyone on the Bucs. Brady has great weapons, no one is disputing that, but Hill & Kelce are better players than any weapons Brady has. Lets not leave out the fact that Godwin missed 4 games and AB came to the Bucs mid-season. Wirfs is a beast though, already a top 5 Right Tackle as a rookie.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    He is a system QB but a very very good one. Accurate, smart, clutch.

    Just doesn't have the talent of a Mahomes or Rodgers to be a real GOAT

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Hilarious how you proceed to name all the Bucs weapons, but no where in that post did you mention Hill for KC, a better WR than anyone on the Bucs. Brady has great weapons, no one is disputing that, but Hill & Kelce are better players than any weapons Brady has. Lets not leave out the fact that Godwin missed 4 games and AB came to the Bucs mid-season. Wirfs is a beast though, already a top 5 Right Tackle as a rookie.
    It's not hilarious as all. I said he was the most unique weapon.

    You will read what you want to read though.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Gronk is washed, I don’t know how you can talk about top 5 targets and bring up his name. Also AB is there because of Brady, let’s not act like Brady was handed that. He being on the team brought AB there, he should get credit for that

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    He had 623 yards and 7 TDs while not getting nearly as many targets as he is used too because of how many other weapons they have that also need targets.

    And he's still an elite blocker.

    Not washed at all. Is he in his prime? No. But he is still a viable weapon and important piece to the teams offense.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Mike Evans
    Godwin
    Antonio Brown
    Gronk

    That's 4 pro bowl talents he has to throw to. His longevity and clutch are undeniable and he is a great QB, but he has landed himself in ridiculously loaded situations over and over. The Pats would not have made the playoffs with him this year so he jumped ship at the perfect time.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayGoat View Post
    Brady makes them look loaded. They haven’t done shit without him
    WTF? Godwin and Mike Evans had career years with Jameis Winston.

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    Default Re: Itís safe to say Tom Brady isnít a system QB

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Mike Evans
    Godwin
    Antonio Brown
    Gronk

    That's 4 pro bowl talents he has to throw to. His longevity and clutch are undeniable and he is a great QB, but he has landed himself in ridiculously loaded situations over and over. The Pats would not have made the playoffs with him this year so he jumped ship at the perfect time.
    The counter to that is a lot of QBs throughout history have found themselves in very favorable situations and none have the resume he has.

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