Is LeBron really not clutch?

[GrayGoat]

[trada7029]

Jordan's were all in the Finals

Lebron has zero in the Finals and isn't capable on the championship level

It's a statistical fact that he avoids contested jumpers, so his clutch shots are all lower-importance shots in earlier rounds due to longevity, excessive opportunity

[GrayGoat]

Jordan's were all in the Finals

Lebron has zero in the Finals and isn't capable on the championship level

It's a statistical fact that he avoids contested jumpers, so his clutch shots are all lower-importance shots in earlier rounds due to longevity, excessive opportunity

LeBron won the chip a few months ago. How do you feel?

[trada7029]

LeBron won the chip a few months ago. How do you feel?

AD was MVP of the real Finals (vs Denver) and was the playoff scoring champ, aka Lebron was carried

Jordan never needed a teammate to out-produce him to win

[Airupthere]

From 2007 to 2018, Lebron shot 34%fg and 28% 3pt in the finals. Less than 24sec to go in the 4th, he shot 23% fg.

[FKAri]

AD was MVP of the real Finals (vs Denver) and was the playoff scoring champ, aka Lebron was carried

Jordan never needed a teammate to out-produce him to win

But Pippen out produced MJ. He also out reproduced him.

[dankok8]

Playoff Crunch-Time Stats (Last 5 minutes of 4th quarter/OT, score margin within 5 points)

Lebron Official (2006 to 2020): 42.5 pts, 10.7 reb, 7.9 ass, 1.8 stl, 1.8 blk on 40.7 %FG/35.3 %3P/76.0 %FT with 4.6 tov; 54.5 %TS
Jordan Official (1997 and 1998): 57.8 pts, 7.1 reb, 5.3 ass, 2.7 stl, 1.8 blk on 47.2 %FG/20.0 %3P/78.9 %FT with 4.9 tov; 57.0 %TS
Jordan Unofficial (Entire Career): 61.1 pts, 7.8 reb, 4.8 ass, 3.9 stl, 1.4 blk on 52.0 %FG/25.0 %3P/83.0 %FT with 3.3 tov; 62.5 %TS

Numbers are only officially tracked since 1997. The unofficial Jordan line was compiled by ISH poster PHILA. Link here.

Anyways even in only 1997 and 1998 Jordan gives 15 more points per 48 compared to Lebron and on better efficiency. These are statistically his two worst postseasons and yet he's clearly the better clutch player.

[Shooter]

Bingo

King Clutch!

[LAL]

From 2007 to 2018, Lebron shot 34%fg and 28% 3pt in the finals. Less than 24sec to go in the 4th, he shot 23% fg.

wow

[Micku]

You can adjust the stats. It's all over the place.

But MJ has always been consistent no matter what it seems. He is probably the most clutch player of all time.

LeBron definitely got better tho in comparison to the earlier years.

[Shooter]

HOL UP

So LeBron has more playoff game winners than any player to ever play the game?

Carry on

[Axe]

Poor chef dingo couldn't match any of that. His buzzer beaters only limited to closing seconds of ongoing quarters.

[Bronbron23]

Problem with these clutch shot numbers is you can get different results for bron and kobe depending on what time left you use. Mj is the only one that is around 50% no matter what time you use.

[dankok8]

You can adjust the stats. It's all over the place.

But MJ has always been consistent no matter what it seems. He is probably the most clutch player of all time.

LeBron definitely got better tho in comparison to the earlier years.

Good post. The problem with game-winning shots like these are stupidly small sample sizes. The stat will also be better as eFG% to take 3pt shots into account. For example if Curry made 4/10 threes that would put him at 60% eFG which is better than MJ.

[Meticode]

I think most people will not consider LeBron clutch because a lot of times he'll make the correct decision down the line and sometimes that invovles him not taking the shot. Sometimes that's a pass trusting your teammates. Personally, I think he's an above average clutch player, but not top tier.