Advanced stat 'RAPTOR' top 10 list is out

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

"RAPTOR" is usually one of the best advanced stats out there. How it works:

Our ratings, updated daily, use play-by-play and player-tracking data to calculate each player’s individual plus-minus measurements and wins above replacement, which accounts for playing time

1. Nikola Jokic
2. Anthony Davis
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Mike Conley
5. Paul George
6. Luka Doncic
7. CJ McCollum
8. Nicolas Batum
9. John Collins
10. Joel Embiid

Clippers have 3 players that made the list! Kawhi, George and Nicolas Kaboom.

[ArbitraryWater]

looks pretty good to me


Conley Batum and Collins are pretty much what comes to mind when i think top 10

[tpols]

The Clippers will probably be the champions this year. Brooklyn is the main thing that stands in their way.

Also... Jokic at #1... people still don't realize how good he is. But he doesn't have any superstar teammates.

And AD #2. Yup... just like we've said.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Are Collins Conley and Batum elite?

[aj1987]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

"RAPTOR" is usually one of the best advanced stats out there. How it works:



1. Nikola Jokic
2. Anthony Davis
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Mike Conley
5. Paul George
6. Luka Doncic
7. CJ McCollum
8. Nicolas Batum
9. John Collins
10. Joel Embiid

Clippers have 3 players that made the list! Kawhi, George and Nicolas Kaboom.

Yeah, even ignoring the absence of LeBron, no KD? No Curry? No Harden?

Sure looks like the best metric to evaluate players.

[Axe]

#3 is a fraud nowadays

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah, even ignoring the absence of LeBron, no KD? No Curry? No Harden?

Sure looks like the best metric to evaluate players.

Raptor is about impact on winning so Curry and Harden need to help their teams win more

[tpols]

Yeah, even ignoring the absence of LeBron, no KD? No Curry? No Harden?

Sure looks like the best metric to evaluate players.

Curry hasn't been as spectacular as his numbers would suggest in this small sample size to start the season. He's +1 in the metrics. 113 ORTG and a paltry 112 DRTG. AD for instance is +22 with a 122 ORTG. So yea... he's been way better. Harden has basically sit the season out until the last two games with the Nets. Lebron has been good +9 but not great like the guys throwing up double that. Small sample size but it is what it is right now.

[Im Still Ballin]

Where's LeBron? I don't see LeBron in those top 10 results.

Why isn't he there? This doesn't make sense.

[FKAri]

Where's LeBron? I don't see LeBron in those top 10 results.

Why isn't he there? This doesn't make sense.

Well if Lebron was in the top 10 then this thread wouldn't exist. So just as you can apply the anthropic principle to the Universe's existence you can apply something similar to this thread. The reason Lebron is not on this list is because if he was then you would have never heard about this list.

[warriorfan]

Curry hasn't been as spectacular as his numbers would suggest in this small sample size to start the season. He's +1 in the metrics. 113 ORTG and a paltry 112 DRTG. AD for instance is +22 with a 122 ORTG. So yea... he's been way better. Harden has basically sit the season out until the last two games with the Nets. Lebron has been good +9 but not great like the guys throwing up double that. Small sample size but it is what it is right now.

Yes. Steph has been doing fairly well but he hasn’t been himself. His three point shooting has been somewhat off.

[hold this L]

looks pretty good to me


Conley Batum and Collins are pretty much what comes to mind when i think top 10

Exactly. If that top 10 list with those 3 superstars isn't enough, HBK agreeing with it really seals that this is all legit. Guy knows his stuff.

[aj1987]

Curry hasn't been as spectacular as his numbers would suggest in this small sample size to start the season. He's +1 in the metrics. 113 ORTG and a paltry 112 DRTG. AD for instance is +22 with a 122 ORTG. So yea... he's been way better. Harden has basically sit the season out until the last two games with the Nets. Lebron has been good +9 but not great like the guys throwing up double that. Small sample size but it is what it is right now.

You really want to use ORtg and DRtg? I've seen you trash those metrics multiple times.

BTW, those metrics aren't very kind towards your boy.

Raptor is about impact on winning so Curry and Harden need to help their teams win more

So, Batum and Collins have had more impact on winning than ****ing Curry and Harden?

[NBAGOAT]

These +/- type lists really aren’t very good with a small sample. Conleys been very good however and a huge reason Utah’s 10-4.

[Xiao Yao You]

You really want to use ORtg and DRtg? I've seen you trash those metrics multiple times.

BTW, those metrics aren't very kind towards your boy.






So, Batum and Collins have had more impact on winning than ****ing Curry and Harden?

this year they do. Curry and Harden have done little winning thus far. Pretty straightforward no?