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    Default Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    "There's a lot of things that I like and enjoy about it, and there's a lot of things that I hate about it," Duncan said. "I hate the way the game's being officiated at times, how they've underpowered the effect of a post player so that you're allowed to beat the crap out of a post player. You're allowed to take him off his spot. You're allowed to hit him, bump him while they're shooting. But if you turn and face and go out to the 3-point line, and you shoot the ball and fall down, all of a sudden, the whistle is blown.

    "So they're protecting the shooters away from the basket. It overpowers some of the players that are away from the basket, and it underpowers post players who use their bodies and their physicality around the basket."
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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    he's right (as usual)

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    You've always been allowed to bump a post player. Playing in the post as a condition means both parties will be hitting each other. The main thing is there aren't really any elite post oriented offenses anymore. Post skill has dramatically diminished independent of any foul calling. But he's right about perimeter guys who manipulate space and basically flop to get FT's.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    You've always been allowed to bump a post player. Playing in the post as a condition means both parties will be hitting each other. The main thing is there aren't really any elite post oriented offenses anymore. Post skill has dramatically diminished independent of any foul calling. But he's right about perimeter guys who manipulate space and basically flop to get FT's.
    Less restrictions on help defense means post players have more complicated passing reads today. The 3 second rule doesn't really do anything to clear out help defense for post attacks, but does clear out the paint for perimeter drives.

    The 3 second rule sucks, and soft perimeter fouls suck.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Cant say ive noticed that on post players, tbh.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    So Shaq would be stopped if he played these days? You can beat the crap out of him?

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer View Post
    Yup been saying this. This is another reason why stats when comparing players is pointless even within the same era. Allow perimeter defenders to physically defend perimeter players like the do in the post and watch how fast players points and efficiency drop.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Cant say ive noticed that on post players, tbh.
    That's because your an idiot. Anyone with 2 eyes can see the difference

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    That's because your an idiot. Anyone with 2 eyes can see the difference
    dat ether in the first sentence

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    yea post guys deal with some unfair physicality. Duncan is not just some former player talking, he was coaching last year

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gohan View Post
    dat ether in the first sentence
    It's not ArbitraryWater's fault bruh. He was abused as a child, scared to smile they called him ugly

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Nike D'Antoni View Post
    So Shaq would be stopped if he played these days? You can beat the crap out of him?
    Naw, he saying that post players could get more physical with each other meanwhile you can't touch perimeter players.

    You can say it's always been like that, but it's increasing more as the years go by.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Micku View Post
    Naw, he saying that post players could get more physical with each other meanwhile you can't touch perimeter players.

    You can say it's always been like that, but it's increasing more as the years go by.
    Exactly. Though I'm not sure if it's increasing from the official's side. I think - obviously - perimeter players are becoming better at drawing fouls and that's certainly increasing.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    He's dead right.

    Post play remains physical and guys are hacking and going at it but the moment you turn and face the defender, you're untouchable. This is how the NBA keeps the game "pretty" by their definition.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    I don't think Timmy meant that post players are getting hit more than they were in the past just that the relative physicality in the post compared to the perimeter is very high. You can still have plenty of contact in the post but you just touch someone at the 3pt line and it's a foul.

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