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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    If they want to bring back some of the old school game all they need to do is just bring back hand checking. Hell, you don't even need to do that, but let them at least me more physical on the perimeter in general. As I've said before, one on one defense was always overrated, but now it means absolutely nothing as you can't even defend anyway. Good one on one defense now is just controlling your player into the next defender or into the zone that makes it difficult. In general, though, it doesn't matter, as any player SEMI decent off the dribble can now just iso and take his man off the dribble as the league has made it so you can't do anything but throw up your hands and try and body him as little as possible. (as even bodying too much gets you called now lol) Comparing stats through eras was always hard with pace and this and that, but this new era has obviously made it much bigger endeavor. This new era is making stars out of guys that would have been role players 15 years ago.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Right on point... :clap:

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    That's because of rule changes that benefit perimeter players. NFL did the same thing with rule changes.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhileonard2 View Post
    That's because of rule changes that benefit perimeter players. NFL did the same thing with rule changes.
    Tennis also has fiddled with the game - slowing down the courts and balls which has all but eliminated serve and volley/net game skills. I feel that they have done it to eliminate chance, create rivalries and protect "stars" - Djokovic/Nadal/Federer should not STILL be atop the rankings at their age.

    In the end, for all sports, it boils down to MONEY by trying to make the sport (what the powers that deem think makes it) exciting - damn the purity or what it used to be.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    To me he seems like a salty old dude.

    IMO the current NBA is significantly better than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri View Post
    He's dead right.

    Post play remains physical and guys are hacking and going at it but the moment you turn and face the defender, you're untouchable. This is how the NBA keeps the game "pretty" by their definition.
    You are exaggerating.

    There is plenty of touching going around on the perimeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Woke View Post
    To me he seems like a salty old dude.

    IMO the current NBA is significantly better than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.
    Man i love these wack takes. Yall really think u know more than a guy who was just recently coaching and is one of the smartest players ever? Perimeter defense is a joke now dude. Anyone with 2 eyes can see it. You can't touch anyone or it's a foul. You can't fight through screens or its a foul. You can't contest because you'll land near them and they'll flop and it's a foul. These rules have all but handcuffed perimeter defense

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan "hates a lot of things" about the modern NBA

    Has any old timer ever said that modern basketball is better than back in their day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    Man i love these wack takes. Yall really think u know more than a guy who was just recently coaching and is one of the smartest players ever? Perimeter defense is a joke now dude. Anyone with 2 eyes can see it. You can't touch anyone or it's a foul. You can't fight through screens or its a foul. You can't contest because you'll land near them and they'll flop and it's a foul. These rules have all but handcuffed perimeter defense
    IMO your take is wack, and you are exaggerating.

    Players can still play defense, and they need to do that intelligently.

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    Offense has advanced. There are moves allowed now that make offense more dynamic. Dribbling is more complex, ball is allowed to be lifted higher almost in the act of shooting and be able to continue dribble. “Gather” step is allowed which is really travel. Shooting is better.

    The game has changed and I dont know that if reallowing handchecking or physicality back on the perimeter will balance it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Woke View Post
    IMO your take is wack, and you are exaggerating.

    Players can still play defense, and they need to do that intelligently.
    I'm not exaggerating at all. Imagine trying to gaurd a great shooter on the perimeter but you can't fight through screens and you can't contest. It makes it so much harder dude. People who play competitively know what I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gudo View Post
    Offense has advanced. There are moves allowed now that make offense more dynamic. Dribbling is more complex, ball is allowed to be lifted higher almost in the act of shooting and be able to continue dribble. “Gather” step is allowed which is really travel. Shooting is better.

    The game has changed and I dont know that if reallowing handchecking or physicality back on the perimeter will balance it out.
    Offenses have not really advanced at all. Most teams run the same pick and roll sets because it's the best way way to take advantage of the rules and defenses. Really watch the games dude. It's usually a pick and roll with the ball handler and big while everyone camps on the perimeter to shoot a three. Sometimes a player on the wing will cut and relocate and guys will shift. With the exception of the warriors, spurs and jazz, Offenses are very basic now.

    And the rules have a huge impact. As a perimeter defender you can't fight through screens or contest shots. I can't imagine actually trying to stop a shooter on the perimeter if you take those 2 basic defensive principles away. Never mind handchecking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    Offenses have not really advanced at all. Most teams run the same pick and roll sets because it's the best way way to take advantage of the rules and defenses. Really watch the games dude. It's usually a pick and roll with the ball handler and big while everyone camps on the perimeter to shoot a three. Sometimes a player on the wing will cut and relocate and guys will shift. With the exception of the warriors, spurs and jazz, Offenses are very basic now.

    And the rules have a huge impact. As a perimeter defender you can't fight through screens or contest shots. I can't imagine actually trying to stop a shooter on the perimeter if you take those 2 basic defensive principles away. Never mind handchecking.
    You have good points. Advanced is probably not the right word. Just different. On an individual level though the loose officiating on lifting the ball, or travelling or the eurostep makes players harder to stop now. Like what isaiah thomas would get away with when he lifts the ball only to continue it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gudo View Post
    You have good points. Advanced is probably not the right word. Just different. On an individual level though the loose officiating on lifting the ball, or travelling or the eurostep makes players harder to stop now. Like what isaiah thomas would get away with when he lifts the ball only to continue it.
    Yeah i agree with that its definitely different. And im not saying offenses are worse now either. I wish they'd bring back physical play just for a year to see the difference. It be interesting. I don't think the impact would be as drastic as some but i think it would definitely make a difference.

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