The race to become the first player with 20k points and 10k assists - CP3 Vs LeBron

[8Ball]

No proof of collusion. No investigation. No penalty. Nothing.

Players are allowed to move around in free agency unless you prefer to go back to the days of slave ownership.

[3ball]

No.

Dirk would be rated ahead of MJ if Dirk had 17 All-NBA teams, 14 All-NBA 1st teams.
Approaching 40 000 points.
Averaged 27/7/7 for 18 seasons.

LeBron has all of the above and its all individual accomplishments.

Then Dirk would have to make 10 finals, win 4 mvps, 4 finals mvps.

Kareem, Kobe and Karl Malone already have all that and other stuff too

but mj is rated higher because longevity doesn't matter - it's all about production rate and winning ability (brand, leadership)

So again, if dirk 4-peated with Wade/Bosh, that would severely distort his ranking - he'd be top 10 for sure, even if he went 2/4

[aj1987]

Kareem, Kobe and Karl Malone already have all that and other stuff too

but mj is rated higher because longevity doesn't matter - it's all about production rate and winning ability (brand, leadership)

So again, if dirk 4-peated with Wade/Bosh, that would severely distort his ranking - he'd be top 10 for sure, even if he went 2/4

Are you autistic? Well, that's a rhetorical question. Don't answer it.

LeBron has 14 All-NBA First team selections. Malone and Kobe have 11.

LeBron has 4 MVP's. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED have fewer.

LeBron has 4 FMVP's. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED have half.

LeBron made the Finals 10 times. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED made fewer Finals.

[3ball]

Are you autistic? Well, that's a rhetorical question. Don't answer it.

LeBron has 14 All-NBA First team selections. Malone and Kobe have 11.

LeBron has 4 MVP's. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED have fewer.

LeBron has 4 FMVP's. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED have half.

LeBron made the Finals 10 times. Both Malone and Kobe COMBINED made fewer Finals.

Kareem and Malone have more points

Kobe and Kareem have more rings

So Lebron doesn't even have an argument over them.. maybe Malone.. Kobe has more all-defense too

And lebron colluded in a weak conference, so his conference finals wins mean nothing

[aj1987]

Kareem and Malone have more points

LeBron's career isn't done yet. LeBron has more FMVP's and All-NBA than both of them.

Also, LeBron has more points, rebounds, steals, assists, and blocks than 1-9. In both the RS AND PO's. Not to mention the fact that LeBron is more efficient.

Kobe and Kareem have more rings

So Lebron doesn't even have an argument over them.. maybe Malone.. Kobe has more all-defense too

Again, LeBron has more points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks than Kobe. More All-NBA, more FMVP's, and more MVP's.

And lebron colluded in a weak conference, so his conference finals wins mean nothing

1-9 has a career losing record without Pippen. Dude was a cancerous loser before Pippen taught him how to win.

[8Ball]

Kareem, Kobe and Karl Malone already have all that and other stuff too

but mj is rated higher because longevity doesn't matter - it's all about production rate and winning ability (brand, leadership)

So again, if dirk 4-peated with Wade/Bosh, that would severely distort his ranking - he'd be top 10 for sure, even if he went 2/4

Longevity matters.

Sorry Jordan doesn't have longevity arguments.

Shouldn't have burnt out mentally.

[Gudo]

Seems like it’s possible for both cp3 and lebron to achieve this milestone this year but they have to stretch it out a bit.

My guess is Lebron will reach the milestone earlier. His apg can only go up as they play better in LA. Cp3 only needs to think about points to reach this milestone. It’s also doable if he can average a little bit more on points.

[SATAN]

They're the same player

except lebron team-hopped/colluded, so he won and CP3 didn't - CP3 wins easily with Wade/Bosh

And Michael Jordan is Demar Derozen

[Smoke117]

What's amazing about this is that they're so close in assists.

The King has 9,500 assists, Point God has 9,800 assists. Close.

The King has 35,000 points, Point God has 19,000 points. Not so close.

LeBron has 13,000 more minutes played.

[3ball]

And Michael Jordan is Demar Derozen

Career Stats vs Kobe Bryant

Jordan (8 games)........ 25/4/4 on 44%
Derozan (10 games).... 16/3/3 on 44%

[dankok8]

There you go. You guys should go compare Lebron to Chris Paul.

[BigKAT]

Well, CP might be the first 20k 10k.
But Lebron will then immediately become the first 30k 10k... so yeah.

[3ball]

Well, CP might be the first 20k 10k.
But Lebron will then immediately become the first 30k 10k... so yeah.

Only losers that didn't win as much as expected start counting their longevity accumulations

"I might not win as much as I should've, but I played a really long time"

That's the case that an underachievers must make.. imagine colluding for 10 Finals and barely winning any, usually by luck

[AirBonner]

4fmvp 4mvp 4chips

LeBron’s a loser!

[3ball]

4fmvp 4mvp 4chips

LeBron’s a loser!

Lebron has the most losing championship record in 3-pointer basketball history - worst championship record ever

He's the definition of "loser" on the championship level - worst record and worst losses (biggest margin, biggest choke)

His teams are the "clippers of the Finals" (0.400 teams on the championship level)

Again, he's the literal definition of loser, aka 4/10