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The Bearded Menace
Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by TheGoatest
Zion:
Defensive rating: 117
Defensive box plus/minus: -0.6
Defensive win shares: 0.5
Ingraham:
Defensive rating: 118
Defensive box plus/minus: -1.4
Defensive win shares: 0.4
Obviously Zion isn't a good defender, but I don't know if there's a player with a worse combination of those three defensive advanced stats than Ingraham.
Tell that to AirTupac and he'll probably slap you with a fish in the face, bosnian style.
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Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram
Zion is 3 years younger and already slightly better. No unbiased person with IQ>50 would pick Ingram over him.
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Doomguy
Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by light
Brandon Ingram is simply not anywhere near Zion's level.
We already know that, retard.
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Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram
Ingram because I don't think Zion will be a healthy player.
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I rule the local playground
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Ingram easily... because Zion will peak very early, like Terry Cummings or Larry Johnson
We've already seen the best of Zion... He'll lose a step by his mid-twenties because of his size...
he's fun to watch for now though.. but a Knicks Larry Johnson is his future.. sorry to crash the party (not sorry actually)
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Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Zion has a higher potential but would be injury prone, plus I don't see that he has the same drive as Ingram.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by 3ball
Ingram easily... because Zion will peak very early, like Terry Cummings or Larry Johnson
We've already seen the best of Zion... He'll lose a step by his mid-twenties because of his size...
he's fun to watch for now though.. but a Knicks Larry Johnson is his future.. sorry to crash the party (not sorry actually)
Banned after like 12 hours Though I don't know what the mods expect, he's exhibited the same behavior for 7 years
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Youngest MVP
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by Sulico
Zion is 3 years younger and already slightly better. No unbiased person with IQ>50 would pick Ingram over him.
no matter what the stats say Zion is the one the Jazz attacked play after play not Ingram
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Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by PeroAntic
The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram
That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?
Ask Shaq. And Karl Malone, who had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper, and rode it all the way to the HOF.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by jayfan
That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?
Karl Malone had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper. And rode it all the way to the HOF.
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Malone also played D and rebounded but it didn't get him any rings
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Decent college freshman
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by PeroAntic
The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram
Doing other stuff doesn't matter as much if you're doing it less efficiently.
Brandon Ingram's Player Efficiency Rating is a low 20.4 at an age when he should be getting into some of his highest PER numbers.
Zion, on the other hand, has a stellar 26.8 PER at age 20 keeping him on track for all-time greatness.
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Youngest MVP
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Originally Posted by jayfan
That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?
Ask Shaq. And Karl Malone, who had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper, and rode it all the way to the HOF.
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Zion will go the Blake Griffin route, just a lot faster with that weight and reliance on the hop step. Unless he diversifies his game, hes ****ed.
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Bitch Hands
Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram
Yeah... I'll take the guy scoring 26 on 60% in not even a full rookie season's worth of games.
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