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    Default Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    Zion:

    Defensive rating: 117
    Defensive box plus/minus: -0.6
    Defensive win shares: 0.5

    Ingraham:

    Defensive rating: 118
    Defensive box plus/minus: -1.4
    Defensive win shares: 0.4

    Obviously Zion isn't a good defender, but I don't know if there's a player with a worse combination of those three defensive advanced stats than Ingraham.
    Tell that to AirTupac and he'll probably slap you with a fish in the face, bosnian style.

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    Default Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram

    Zion is 3 years younger and already slightly better. No unbiased person with IQ>50 would pick Ingram over him.

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    Default Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    Brandon Ingram is simply not anywhere near Zion's level.
    We already know that, retard.

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    Default Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram

    Ingram because I don't think Zion will be a healthy player.

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Zionnnnn

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Ingram easily... because Zion will peak very early, like Terry Cummings or Larry Johnson

    We've already seen the best of Zion... He'll lose a step by his mid-twenties because of his size...

    he's fun to watch for now though.. but a Knicks Larry Johnson is his future.. sorry to crash the party (not sorry actually)

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Zion has a higher potential but would be injury prone, plus I don't see that he has the same drive as Ingram.

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Ingram easily... because Zion will peak very early, like Terry Cummings or Larry Johnson

    We've already seen the best of Zion... He'll lose a step by his mid-twenties because of his size...

    he's fun to watch for now though.. but a Knicks Larry Johnson is his future.. sorry to crash the party (not sorry actually)
    Banned after like 12 hours Though I don't know what the mods expect, he's exhibited the same behavior for 7 years

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram

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    Default Re: Zion Williamson or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by Sulico View Post
    Zion is 3 years younger and already slightly better. No unbiased person with IQ>50 would pick Ingram over him.
    no matter what the stats say Zion is the one the Jazz attacked play after play not Ingram

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by PeroAntic View Post
    The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram
    That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?

    Ask Shaq. And Karl Malone, who had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper, and rode it all the way to the HOF.


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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by jayfan View Post
    That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?

    Karl Malone had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper. And rode it all the way to the HOF.


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    Malone also played D and rebounded but it didn't get him any rings

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by PeroAntic View Post
    The player who knows to do other stuff except dunking. That would be Ingram
    Doing other stuff doesn't matter as much if you're doing it less efficiently.

    Brandon Ingram's Player Efficiency Rating is a low 20.4 at an age when he should be getting into some of his highest PER numbers.

    Zion, on the other hand, has a stellar 26.8 PER at age 20 keeping him on track for all-time greatness.

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Quote Originally Posted by jayfan View Post
    That's unfair to Zion. First, because it's not true. Second, because if you're unstoppable down low, who cares what else you can do?

    Ask Shaq. And Karl Malone, who had a pick-n-roll elbow jumper, and rode it all the way to the HOF.


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    Zion will go the Blake Griffin route, just a lot faster with that weight and reliance on the hop step. Unless he diversifies his game, hes ****ed.

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    Default Re: Zion or Brandon Ingram

    Yeah... I'll take the guy scoring 26 on 60% in not even a full rookie season's worth of games.

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