Wilt Chamberlain is limited offensively

[coastalmarker99]

another worthless stiff

Wilt is arguably the greatest 7 foot defensive center in NBA history. The late, great Harvey Pollack did keep track of blocked shots when Wilt played for the Warriors/76ers, and despite the 76ers in the 1980s later discarding a good number of those statistics that Pollack kept in his notebooks he estimated that the Big Dipper averaged 8-10 blocks a game during his prime years. In Chamberlain's last 2 seasons with the 76ers and his 5 years with Lakers, sportswriters (e.g., UPI, AP, Sixer/Laker beat writers) were being more diligent about keeping track of blocked shots. This was especially the case in the playoffs. Examples include...

1967 PLAYOFFS 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9

1968 PLAYOFFS 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS FG% 53.4

1969 PLAYOFFS 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS FG% 54.5

1971 PLAYOFFS 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS FG% 45.5

1973 PLAYOFFS 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS FG% 55.2



And also

I listed his blocked shot average for the 1967 playoffs (e.g., 15 games 9.2 blocked shots) in a prior post, but here are his statistics from each playoff series.

1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
CINCINNATI ROYALS

GAME 1 41 PTS 22 REBS 5 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 37 PTS 27 REBS 11 ASTS 6 BLKS
GAME 3 16 PTS 30 REBS 19 ASTS 14 BLKS

GAME 4 18 PTS 27 REBS 9 ASTS 12 BLKS

CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 28.0 PTS 26.5 REBS 11.0 ASTS 10.2 BLKS

1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
BOSTON CELTICS

GAME 1 24 PTS 32 REBS 13 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 2 15 PTS 29 REBS 5 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 3 20 PTS 41 REBS 9 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 4 20 PTS 22 REBS 10 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 5 29 PTS 36 REBS 13 ASTS 7 BLKS

CONFERENCE FINAL AVERAGE 21.6 PTS 32.0 REBS 10.0 ASTS 7.4 BLKS

1967 NBA FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS

GAME 1 16 PTS 33 REBS 10 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 10 PTS 38 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 3 26 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 4 10 PTS 27 REBS 8 ASTS 15 BLKS

GAME 5 20 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 13 BLKS

GAME 6 24 PTS 23 REBS 4 ASTS 6 BLKS

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 17.6 PTS 28.5 REBS 6.8 ASTS 10.1 BLKS

1967 Playoffs 15 games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS



Here is what I have in regards to Wilt's other blocked shot totals in the playoffs in other years besides 1967

1962 East Conference Playoffs Warriors VS Nationals
GAME 2 28 PTS 26 REBS 4 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 5 56 PTS 35 REBS 12 BLKS

1962 East Conference Finals Warriors VS Celtics
Game 7 22 PTS 22 REBS 14 BLKS

1964 West Conference Finals Warriors VS Hawks
GAME 2 28 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 15 BLKS
GAME 7 39 PTS 30 REBS 6 ASTS 12 BLKS

1965 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Royals
GAME 2 30 PTS 15 REBS 10 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 3 17 PTS 15 REBS 6 ASTS 9 BLKS
GAME 4 38 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 11 BLKS

1965 East Conference Finals 76ers VS Celtics
GAME 1 33 PTS 31 REBS 11 BLKS
GAME 2 30 PTS 39 REBS 8 ASTS 8 BLKS

1967 PLAYOFFS 15 Games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS

1968 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Knicks
GAME 1 37 PTS 29 REBS 7 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 2 24 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 3 18 PTS 24 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS

GAME 4 23 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 6 BLKS

GAME 5 26 PTS 21 REBS 7 ASTS 14 BLKS
GAME 6 25 PTS 27 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS

CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 25.5 PTS 24.1 REBS 6.3 ASTS 10.5 BLKS

1968 PLAYOFFS 13 Games 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS

1969 PLAYOFFS 18 Games 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS

1970 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Suns
GAME 5 36 PTS 14 REBS 2 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 6 12 PTS 26 REBS 11 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 7 30 PTS 27 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS

1970 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Hawks
GAME 1 16 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS

GAME 2 24 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 7 BLKS
GAME 4 11 PTS 21 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS

1971 PLAYOFFS 12 Games 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS

1972 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Bulls
GAME 3 16 PTS 14 REBS 9 BLKS

1972 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Bucks
GAME 3 7 PTS 14 REBS 4 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 5 12 PTS 26 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS
GAME 6 20 PTS 24 REBS 9 BLKS

1972 NBA FINALS LAKERS VS. KNICKS

GAME 1 12 PTS 19 REBS 0 BLKS

GAME 2 23 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS
GAME 3 26 PTS 20 REBS 9 BLKS

GAME 4 12 PTS 24 REBS 12 BLKS

GAME 5 24 PTS 29 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 19.4 PTS 23.3 REBS 7.4 BLKS

1973 PLAYOFFS 17 Games 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS

[Bronbron23]

16 PPG Lakers in 80 games/53%
25 PPG 76ers in 44 Games/54%
*34.7 PPG Warrior's 36games/50%


Wilt Warriors playoff average is still the league record among all 30 franchise leaders in Playoff PPG, which includes Jordan Bulls.



Wilt played in 29 postseason series, the majority of them played from 1966-73, and Wilt's teams went 18-11 in them. Anyone wondering about Wilt's drop-off in career average points from the regular season to the playoffs (30.1 to 22.5) should know that when Wilt was the main shot taker on his team he put up 39.6 season PPG and 32.9 playoffs PPG. in his first seven years.

Yeah forsure wilt was nice with it. I agree with op though. I don't think the offensive game he dominanted with back then would be as effective today. Defensively he'd still be a beast.

My point was if wilt came up today he'd obviously play differently and learn adopt all the skills that today's bigs have. His game would be different but he'd still dominate

[coastalmarker99]

Yeah forsure wilt was nice with it. I agree with op though. I don't think the offensive game he dominanted with back then would be as effective today. Defensively he'd still be a beast.

My point was if wilt came up today he'd obviously play differently and learn adopt all the skills that today's bigs have. His game would be different but he'd still dominate

Wilt would dominate offensively today all you to have look at is how the refs of his era treated him compared to the stars of the today


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-XTPVBOCLw&t=29s


If you let Wilt the strongest player of all time use his full physically in the post along with running over people in transition then he would still be as unstoppable nowadays just as he was back in the 1960s

[Real Men Wear Green]

How do you know he was limitedoffensively if you never saw him play? He averaged 50, he could score. Career 22.5 playoff ppg with 4 seasons over 30.

[Thenameless]

Every player in history is limited offensively.

[Smoke117]

Amusing thread considering you are a Bran stan. He doesn't exactly have the most limitless offensive repertoire himself *smirk*

[Manny98]

Wilt attained his stats at the detriment to the teams offense hence why he didn't start winning until he took a lesser role on offense

Wilt is the biggest black hole in NBA history and it isn't even close. Plus his stats are heavily inflated due to playing 48 minutes a game and the high pace of that era

[Manny98]

How do you know he was limitedoffensively if you never saw him play? He averaged 50, he could score. Career 22.5 playoff ppg with 4 seasons over 30.

22.5 ppg playing 48 minutes at a extremely high pace with mediocre efficiency as he couldn't shoot the basketball to a
save his life?

That's absolutely horrific

Thanks for proving that It is the most overrated player in NBA history

[Manny98]

Wilt is the definition of a playoffs choker. For a guy his size he struggled offensively while being guarded by 6'9.5" Bill Russell.

Yep people blame Wilt not having enough help but the reality is Wilt had plenty of opportunities to beat Russell but choked when it mattered

[Manny98]

Every player in history is limited offensively.

Wilts high usage low efficiency playstyle limits the ceiling of his teams offense hence lack of success when it matters

[zeerghit]

Wilt > Bran.

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[getting_old]

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i'm thinking a certain % of Dwight Howard-ism was in his soul and mind.

He couldn't win a big game unless his team was 30 points better than the opponent, lost tons of games when his team was only 25 points better from 1968 to 1973.

He seemed a nice guy, lacked the killer instinct of Russell and other greats of the game; seemed to wonder "what am i doing out here, is this really purposeful?" a lot, which isn't a good thing

had his head wandering all over the place, decided to show everyone up by going for the assist lead in the league and gave up several easy scoring chances just to beef his dime total, quit on D when he had 4 or 5 fouls because he didn't want to foul out of a game...

[Thenameless]

Wilts high usage low efficiency playstyle limits the ceiling of his teams offense hence lack of success when it matters

Michael Jordan has a career FG% of 0.497.
Wilt Chamberlain has a career FG% of 0.540.
They changed the rules to not allow Wilt to dunk his free throws, otherwise he would have the highest FT% of all time.

Keep trying.

[HoopsNY]

Guys like Zion and Giannis live in the paint. 67% of Giannis' FGA in his career come from below 10 ft, and 96% of Zion's FGA come from below 10 ft as well.

But Wilt can't produce in this era?

[coastalmarker99]

Guys like Zion and Giannis live in the paint. 67% of Giannis' FGA in his career come from below 10 ft, and 96% of Zion's FGA come from below 10 ft as well.

But Wilt can't produce in this era?

Thank you and he forgets to mention that Wilt would be allowed to get away with murder in this Nba as they actually allow players to play physically offensively compared to the '60s where it was a foul every time if you lowered your shoulder into a player.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-XTPVBOCLw&t=32s