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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because...
the 94' Bulls shocked everyone by not being horrible - it was a complete shock that they weren't a lottery team.
It wasn't until the 2nd three-peat that people started thinking the other players must be good too, and revisionist history has lionized anyone associated with the 3-peats..
The winning spotlight inflated everyone, despite everyone producing weak stats individually during the 2nd three-peat... But during the 93' Finals, Magic and Isiah discuss how bad Jordan's cast was and how the Bulls were "really just about Jordan":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6og_pOVi2w&t=0m16s
Last edited by 3ball; 04-12-2021 at 02:29 PM.
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Local High School Star
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
And Jordan shocked everyone when he won as a dominant scorer since historically before him that was not a winning recipe. Turns out the people at the time were wrong about Jordan just as they were wrong about Jordan's supporting cast. Contemporaneous perceptions are often wrong.
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NBA Legend
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
“One man team”
MJ: always played with 4 other teammates on the court
Right...
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Professor Objectivity
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
1 man Jordan teams = 1-9.
1 man LeBron teams = deep playoff runs.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by Ainosterhaspie
And Jordan shocked everyone when he won as a dominant scorer since historically before him that was not a winning recipe. Turns out the people at the time were wrong about Jordan just as they were wrong about Jordan's supporting cast. Contemporaneous perceptions are often wrong.
People correctly perceived the Bulls as a 1-man team during the 1st three-peat, but they were swayed by the winning spotlight and 3-peat resume during the 2nd three-peat.
Jordan's cast actually played worse in the playoffs during the 2nd three-peat (pippen and rodman were MIA), but the unprecedented winning fooled everyone into thinking they were good.
Ultimately, only MJ dominated, so it was a 1-man team.. the triangle was an automatic 50 wins for any cast that had perfected it, but only MJ/Kobe could win titles with it.
Last edited by 3ball; 04-12-2021 at 04:02 PM.
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I go HAM
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by 8Ball
1 man Jordan teams = 1-9.
1 man LeBron teams = deep playoff runs.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
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Yes, pointing out how rookie Jordan lost just like every other young player does in their first few years has always worked well to "end" threads.
Ultimately, 90' Jordan led a less productive cast than the 05' Cavs to within a migraine of the title (the 90' Bulls had the #19 defense, while pippen was less than 05' Zydrunas offensively across the board)
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
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Here's Stephen A. Smith yesterday talking about Paul George averaging barely 20 ppg on 39% in last year's Playoffs:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQN6WV80Dcw&t=0m26s
^^^^ But Pippen did that all the time!!!!!
That's actually better than Pippen, who averaged 17 on 41% for the entire 2nd three-peat (96-98' Playoffs), but no one noticed BECAUSE THE BULLS WERE ACTUALLY A 1-MAN TEAM WHERE ONLY 1 GUY WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE (and completely dominated the production on his team)
Last edited by 3ball; 04-12-2021 at 04:03 PM.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
You're WAY too entrenched in it now to ever change your view, like a QAnon supporter, but nobody besides you is going to actually believe the Bulls were a poor supporting cast, esp considering the era they played in. Even if you don't believe it was the best, it was easily top 2-3 every season they won the title, hence why they won 55 games despite not having any time to find a suitable replacement
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Professor Objectivity
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Thread Ender
LeBron with Larry Hughes = finals.
Jordan with Larry Hughes = lottery
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Professor Objectivity
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by 3ball
Yes, pointing out how rookie Jordan lost just like every other young player does in their first few years has always worked well to "end" threads.
Ultimately, 90' Jordan led a less productive cast than the 05' Cavs to within a migraine of the title (the 90' Bulls had the #19 defense, while pippen was less than 05' Zydrunas offensively across the board)
Here's Stephen A. Smith yesterday talking about Paul George averaging barely 20 ppg on 39% in last year's Playoffs:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQN6WV80Dcw&t=0m26s
^^^^ But Pippen did that all the time!!!!!
That's actually better than Pippen, who averaged 17 on 41% for the entire 2nd three-peat (96-98' Playoffs), but no one noticed BECAUSE THE BULLS WERE ACTUALLY A 1-MAN TEAM WHERE ONLY 1 GUY WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE (and completely dominated the production on his team)
Wrong.
Pippen won 55 and 59 games without Jordan. Something Jordan could not do without Pippen.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
And Lebron has lionized OP's brain.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
No Phil Jackson team would ever be a lottery team, he's not Nick Nurse. Even the 2006 lakers with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown were a top 7 SRS team.
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Local High School Star
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by 8Ball
1 man Jordan teams = 1-9.
1 man LeBron teams = deep playoff runs.
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Local High School Star
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
You're WAY too entrenched in it now to ever change your view, like a QAnon supporter, but nobody besides you is going to actually believe the Bulls were a poor supporting cast, esp considering the era they played in. Even if you don't believe it was the best, it was easily top 2-3 every season they won the title, hence why they won 55 games despite not having any time to find a suitable replacement
To be fair, there's far more "evidence" for QAnon than there is for 1-9 not having the best supporting cast of the 90s by a mile.
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NBA Legend
Re: HISTORICAL RECORD - the 1st three-peat Bulls were considered a 1-man team because
Originally Posted by HBK_Kliq_2
No Phil Jackson team would ever be a lottery team, he's not Nick Nurse. Even the 2006 lakers with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown were a top 7 SRS team.
This is true. MJ had by far the better cast and coach than Kawhi has ever had
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