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    Default Re: 60% Of All New COVID-19 Cases Are Occurring In People Who Were Already Vaccinated

    “Clinicians have been telling me that more than half of the new COVID cases that they’re treating are people who have been vaccinated,” said Dr. Harvey Risch.
    Where is the actual data?

    Sounds just like the "hospitals are overwhelmed" junk we heard all last year.

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    Default Re: 60% Of All New COVID-19 Cases Are Occurring In People Who Were Already Vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas View Post
    Doctor Harvey Risch... from Yale..... that is my source. Not the CDC or ABC whom have agendas.

    I think the video would've made it to twitter or youtube... but you know how those big tech companies like to do things.
    There are a million doctors with differing opinions about everything.

    You can't sit here and say that the CDC has an agenda but then feel confident (which might not describe how you actually feel) that an individual doctor who may or may not be trying to get his name on the internet is righteous and clean.

    I don't believe anything at this point but this is not more valid that anything else you read.

    And that doesn't even get into the issues with the actual article.

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    Default Re: 60% Of All New COVID-19 Cases Are Occurring In People Who Were Already Vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    It would be true if covid viruses were flying around by themselves. They fly around in droplets and masks are effective in stopping those droplets.

    Here's an article explaining it better with sources from epidemiologists: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/5343537002/

    And of course, n95 are not 100% effective. They are called n95 because of 95% effectiveness against particles around 300 nanometers.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52199X20301481

    COVID virus might be 60 to 140 nanometers by itself, but as I said, they don't usually fly around solo. They are typically traveling in droplets or aerosols with multiple virus particles lodged together, which masks are effective against. Of course, it wouldn't be 100% effective. Nothing is perfectly 100% effective. That study above says even the P100 respirator masks are 99.97% effective against aerosols. Perhaps only the self-contained breathing apparatus like scuba divers or firefighters can be 100% effective, but that's about it.
    Thanks, then it's really fking gross that people aren't heavily advised to wash their faces as well as hands. Someone with an active infection, walking around all day putting droplets into his or hers mask, smearing it out in the face, and also touching the masks all the time.

    Secondly, about the bolded, this is from WHO:

    Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur through direct, indirect, or close contact with infected people through infected secretions such as saliva and respiratory secretions or their respiratory droplets, which are expelled when an infected person coughs, sneezes, talks or sings.(2-10) Respiratory droplets are >5-10 μm in diameter whereas droplets <5μm in diameter are referred to as droplet nuclei or aerosols.(11) Respiratory droplet transmission can occur when a person is in close contact (within 1 metre) with an infected person who has respiratory symptoms (e.g. coughing or sneezing) or who is talking or singing; in these circumstances, respiratory droplets that include virus can reach the mouth, nose or eyes of a susceptible person and can result in infection. Indirect contact transmission involving contact of a susceptible host with a contaminated object or surface (fomite transmission) may also be possible (see below).
    They don't say anything about these respiratory droplets having to lodge themselves to whatever else comes out of your mouth.

    Lastly, if it was so simple to stop transmission of diseases and easy to prove that they work as well, it's quite amazing that health care professionals in all situations didn't wear masks when working in environments of sick people.
    Pre 2020 ER doctors, a place where people with influenza go, would treat open wounds and what not without wearing masks.

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    Default Re: 60% Of All New COVID-19 Cases Are Occurring In People Who Were Already Vaccinated

    Not enough straw man, bro.


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