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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Lebron?
Is he going to choke off the series by having his unsophisticated, playground king style solved like 10' and 11' Lebron?
He's holding the ball a record 11 minutes per game and holding the ball for half the shot clock after the 8 second backcourt count:
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/to..._OF_POSS&dir=1
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
I'm amazed by his ability to navigate with the dribble. But yea... If Hardaway and Kleber don't shoot 70% from 3, this series is 1-2 or 0-3.
The thing is Luka is an amazing shooter and passer off the dribble. Nash is a champion in 2007 without a bogus suspension, and Chris Paul is a champion in 2018 without the injury.
Being a ball dominator can work so long as you are a great shooter.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along.
Luka's 11 minutes of hold-time is 20% more than Harden's ridiculous season in 2019.
Jordan never held the ball anywhere near that much and was never a ball-dominator - he was an off-guard/shooter
Most importantly, when Jordan had a teammate performing at Porzingis' level, he went 6/6... Porzingis averages 21/7 in the playoffs with 22 PER
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We Stay Winning
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by Shooter
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along.
Luka will always be a ball-dominator, so he'll never win like players with elite jumpshooting skill, aka Bird, Dirk, Kobe, Jordan, KD
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Lol
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Shook of Luka already
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Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Name a defense that actually solved prime Chris Paul.
I gotta say Luka is the most ball dominant I’ve ever seen.
But he’s massive with a seemingly unlimited variety of shots at the rim off pivot, fakes, hesitations, muscle moves lebron/Harden fashion, with a natural floater/mid range touch guys like Harden and lebron have never had.
He can’t shoot 3’s very well at all but he’s hella resilient and definitely not some guy defenses just solve like Lillard.
Hell, he’s killing LAC, why make this thread now?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by 999Guy
Name a defense that actually solved prime Chris Paul.
I gotta say Luka is the most ball dominant I’ve ever seen.
But he’s massive with a seemingly unlimited variety of shots at the rim off pivot, fakes, hesitations, muscle moves lebron/Harden fashion, with a natural floater/mid range touch guys like Harden and lebron have never had.
He can’t shoot 3’s very well at all but he’s hella resilient and definitely not some guy defenses just solve like Lillard.
Hell, he’s killing LAC, why make this thread now?
See that's the problem - high scoring from him equals dribble-heavy rim attacks that get beat by ball movement as the series progresses
It's the same problem that lebron has and it's why lebron never wins outside the first round with high scoring (35+)
Otoh, jumpshooters like Jordan, Bird, Kobe or KD can score in bunches while the ball moves, so they can win with high scoring carry-jobs against the top teams
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by 3ball
Luka will always be a ball-dominator, so he'll never win like players with elite jumpshooting skill, aka Bird, Dirk, Kobe, Jordan, KD
Ball hog
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by Axe
Ball hog
Reggie Miller can take 30 shots but he won't ball-hog (dominate the ball, aka excessive live-dribbles)
But it's easy to conflate ball-dominance/hogging with high shot attempts - Jordan did the latter, but not the former
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Originally Posted by 3ball
Reggie Miller can take 30 shots but he won't ball-hog (dominate the ball, aka excessive live-dribbles)
But it's easy to conflate ball-dominance/hogging with high shot attempts - Jordan did the latter, but not the former
No triangle, no bustle
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Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along
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(no Dirk homer)
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
One of the many reason why Chis Paul, Steve Nash, Luka Doncic, James Harden etc. got the ball so much is that the other players on the team can't handle the ball like them. We clearly saw what happened when Luka went out or played offball.
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Is Luka's ball-dominance starting to be solved like CP3, Nash or pre-decision Leb
Just like MJ ball-dominance was solved up until Phil Jackson & Pippen came along.
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