Is luka better than bron at the same age?

[HoopsNY]

In his defense it was definitely a much harder era. Luka like everyone who's ball dominating on the perimeter today enjoys the rules that makes it near impossible to defend anyone

Luka doesn't live on the perimeter though. He's a 33% career three point shooter. This doesn't mean he would be dropping 35-40+ a night in the playoffs as he did in this first round against LAC. But Luka would still be dropping buckets in any era, including the mid 2000s.

[HoopsNY]

Because he would get doubled like crazy

No 5 out with Porzingis spacing the floor, no Hardaway and Brunson to share the burden

Tougher rules make it harder to score back then, 07 LeBron is averaging 40 on these Clippers, especially with shooters all around him

Have you watched Luka? He is consistently doubled. The availability of Hardaway and KP only makes sense where his assists numbers go. But Luka drops buckets on double teams as well.

[HoopsNY]

Luka isn't better than prime Lebron but he may well be better than Lebron at the same age which is 2007. Luka just put up 35.7/7.9/10.3 in this series albeit on league average efficiency and 4.6 topg but that's still crazy impressive. He faced the brunt of that Clippers defense. Bron for all his greatness only put up like 26/7/7 when he beat the Pistons and then completely struggled against the Spurs. Even with the advantages of this era, that's still a huge statistical edge for Luka.

That is a good point. I think it would be close. Luka is a generational talent. If he can put up such numbers against PG/Kawhi and co, then certainly he'd put up LeBron like numbers in 2007.

[mehyaM24]

That is a good point. I think it would be close. Luka is a generational talent. If he can put up such numbers against PG/Kawhi and co, then certainly he'd put up LeBron like numbers in 2007.

not really buying the "era" argument either. defenses were tougher, sure, but these are the playoffs. which means refs let more shit go. today kawhi & pg are the so-called BEST perimeter defenders, yet luka gave em the business. compared to 07, lebron would average better numbers now. but unless he morphed into a 3pt marksman, i doubt he'd have a better series than luka.

lebron was limited back then. and nowhere close to being efficient like he was iater on his career. dude shot 41 percent in the 07 & 08 playoffs.

[StrongLurk]

Yes I think Luka is a little better than Lebron at the same age. It's a way different league though so it's hard to compare honestly.

[Bronbron23]

Luka doesn't live on the perimeter though. He's a 33% career three point shooter. This doesn't mean he would be dropping 35-40+ a night in the playoffs as he did in this first round against LAC. But Luka would still be dropping buckets in any era, including the mid 2000s.

Playing on the perimeter isn't just threes. And of course he'd still be sick with it but he wouldn't be doing what he's doing now. It's not arguable that this is the weakest era ever. He'd be impacted by tougher era's like anyone would be

[Mr.GOAT2408]

Could see an argument either way, LeBron at same age played in tougher era and that Pistons team was as good if not better than the Clippers as a team, Clippers more talented but those Pistons teams notoriously had great chemistry and resilience which the Clippers have lacked in the last two years (yes they came back from 2-0, it never should have got there)

Game today is just so different from what it used to be that straight numbers comparisons will always be tough even when trying to adjust, a lot of Luka's strengths were much harder to do (or were discouraged) back then, but Doncic also has an edge as a shooter (not saying much, it's LeBrick ) and I'd argue playmaker as well. LeBron better inside, defense, and better conditioned

[jayfan]

LeBron took the worst team ever to the finals at 22

If you think 22 year old Luka can take that garbage team he had past the Pistons in 07 in place of LeBron then sure

LeBron took the worst team ever to the finals at 22

If you think 22 year old Luka can take that garbage team he had past the Pistons in 07 in place of LeBron then sure

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[Mr.GOAT2408]

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[Bronbron23]

Could see an argument either way, LeBron at same age played in tougher era and that Pistons team was as good if not better than the Clippers as a team, Clippers more talented but those Pistons teams notoriously had great chemistry and resilience which the Clippers have lacked in the last two years (yes they came back from 2-0, it never should have got there)

Game today is just so different from what it used to be that straight numbers comparisons will always be tough even when trying to adjust, a lot of Luka's strengths were much harder to do (or were discouraged) back then, but Doncic also has an edge as a shooter (not saying much, it's LeBrick ) and I'd argue playmaker as well. LeBron better inside, defense, and better conditioned

Good post

[HoopsNY]

LeBron took the worst team ever to the finals at 22

If you think 22 year old Luka can take that garbage team he had past the Pistons in 07 in place of LeBron then sure

LeBron took the worst team ever to the finals at 22

If you think 22 year old Luka can take that garbage team he had past the Pistons in 07 in place of LeBron then sure

Just noticed this too. It's funny how LeBron alts dedicate their pathetic teenage years to this forum.

[kawhileonard2]

Yes Luka was making the playoffs. Lebron didn't make the playoffs.

[ImKobe]

Could see an argument either way, LeBron at same age played in tougher era and that Pistons team was as good if not better than the Clippers as a team, Clippers more talented but those Pistons teams notoriously had great chemistry and resilience which the Clippers have lacked in the last two years (yes they came back from 2-0, it never should have got there)

Game today is just so different from what it used to be that straight numbers comparisons will always be tough even when trying to adjust, a lot of Luka's strengths were much harder to do (or were discouraged) back then, but Doncic also has an edge as a shooter (not saying much, it's LeBrick ) and I'd argue playmaker as well. LeBron better inside, defense, and better conditioned

How? Prime Kawhi + PG + Rondo + Batum + Reggie shits on the Pistons' squad. C-Webb was washed and Sheed was in the decline as well, they didn't have a superstar to match Lebron's production.

Yeah the numbers are different, but I'll take the team with a top 30 ATG in his prime + another All-NBA level player in George and Playoff Rondo.

[Pip' N Rodman]

How? Prime Kawhi + PG + Rondo + Batum + Reggie shits on the Pistons' squad. C-Webb was washed and Sheed was in the decline as well, they didn't have a superstar to match Lebron's production.

Yeah the numbers are different, but I'll take the team with a top 30 ATG in his prime + another All-NBA level player in George and Playoff Rondo.

LeBron destroyed the Pistons team that locked down Kobe in the Finals

[Stanley Kobrick]

Luka was better than 99% at his age, including Jordan at the same age. about even with Lebron, but they were both playing with pros since 18. shaq, lebron, luka are the only true phenoms weve seen in 50 years. Zion would be there if not for injuries rookie season