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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://kslsports.com/468603/jazz-pr...-camp-mailbag/

    I am sure this is possible, though it must be understood that if any member of the public has considered the potential fallout of bringing in a player like Eric Paschall because of his friendship with Donovan Mitchell, and then not playing him, the Jazz have certainly run through every contingency plan to make sure that everyone is taken care of.
    Doubt it. We saw Mitchell get his way in the playoffs over the team doctors and it cost them.. We saw them bring in Rubio for Hayward. Never ends well when players dictate team moves especially when it's not your best player

    If we have a slow start, do you think Ryan smith makes a landmark trade like other new owners tend to do?

    ó Glen Andersen (@glendersen) September 23, 2021
    does he make a coaching change?

    The only way I see the Jazz perimeter defense improving, especially in the postseason when it was most clearly a problem, is for Mitchell and Conley to be healthier at seasonís end, and for either Jared Butler or Trent Forrest to prove they have defensive chops and can work their way into the rotation.
    the D is better without Mitchell

    I contend that while most people expressed significant concern about injuries last season due to the quick turnaround, this year has also had a shorter-than-usual offseason, and stealing days off will be at a premium throughout the season.
    same COTY no reason to think he will change other than he got the Wizard canned

    The difficulty is that heís so good around the rim, thereís no reason for him to ever step too far away from the basket unless itís a late clock situation.
    when he does the dribble hand off and no defender is around I'd like to see him shoot more. He can hit it. He also is capable of scoring over smaller players in the post if they get him the ball as we saw in the olympics

    Jordan Clarkson Ė $12.4 million = $30.1 million in savings
    that's the one that would make you a lot better team

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/24/uta...n-top-100-2/2/

    Utah Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr. ESPN top 100 ranking: 48
    he was one of the top players in the league last year. Way too low

    LaMelo Ball ranks 47 on ESPNís list. The knees of Utah Jazz fans are jerking in such widespread unison that itís audible in Charlotte. However, fairness dictates that we apply the same statistical analysis in a comparison of the two talented point guards.


    The player ranked one spot ahead of Gobert is essentially his antithesis in Karl-Anthony Towns. A former number-one overall pick, Towns epitomizes the modern big: in fact, heís arguably the best shooting center in NBA history. In 2019-20, Towns hit 41.2% of his 7.9 three-point attempts per game. Those are marks any guard in the league not named Curry would be satisfied to hit.
    how about he wins some games first?

    On the other hand, Zion Williamsonís 23rd ranking feels like an open-and-shut case. His 27.1 PER and 3.8 VORP exceed both Gobert and Townsí marks in each metric, and at 21, improvement is the assumed outcome heading into the 2021-22 season.
    When Zion plays some D and carries teams like GObert has for almost 7 years let me know

    Utah Jazz guard Donovan Mitchell ESPN top 100 ranking: 18
    all I can say is they better hope Gobert stays healthy because they will be one of the worst teams in the league again without him. Without Micthell and Conley they kept winning. Says it all

    Meanwhile, both players are the focal points of their teamís offenses, but Youngís ability to make plays for his teammates (9.4 assists per game last season) separates him from Mitchell, given that Young is also an elite bucket-getter. ESPN will get no debate for their placement of Young ahead of Mitchell.
    the offense actually revolves around Gobert though

    Veteran Miami Heat forward Jimmy Butler ranked two spots ahead of Mitchell at 16th. Itís even more difficult to debate that decision. His 26.5 PER and 4.2 VORP from 2020-21 are both several paces ahead of either Mitchell or Young, and in contrast to the two young guards, heís an elite defender to boot.
    and he's carried teams and doesn't wait until December or January to show up

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/23/nug...tah-jazz-core/

    Itís a baffling, compounding series of events. It begs for a deeper dive. How could the Nuggets allow this to happen? What circumstances led them to believe these decisions would benefit their team? In simple terms: How? Why? How?
    they were selling their pick to save money because they were a playoff team not looking for a prospect when Jazz lucked out with Gobert. Already had Murray. Didn't need Mitchell. Not really hard to figure. Jazz got lucky with Gobert. If not for him Jazz would still suck and as we see Denver doesn't despite those trades

    Maybe the Nuggets should have stuck with Gobert.
    no one knows who the Nuggets would have taken if they had kept the pick. They drafted Gobert for the Jazz. How many times we have to go over this shit? How about the rest of the teams that passed on Rudy including the Wizard to get Burke?

    The Denver Nuggets made an egregious error in this draft day deal with the Utah Jazz. Thatís forgivable. Every front office in the NBA makes mistakes. Four years later, the Nuggets would make an at least equally large one.
    it wasn't because the Jazz likely still suck if not for Gobert

    Fans of the Utah Jazz will not complain. Yes, the pair is flanked by solid veterans like Mike Conley Jr., Bojan Bogdanovic, Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson, but Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert are clearly the two most important cogs in an extremely well-oiled Jazz machine.
    Conley was more important last year and arguably others that play both ends

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://fansided.com/2021/09/22/ben-...s-deep-cuts/2/

    Simmons makes no sense unless it's for Rudy and that makes no sense for the Sixers

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    Jordan Clarkson is a good sport, on and off the basketball court. Coming off a career-best year for the Utah Jazz, which earned him the Sixth Man of the Year award earlier in the spring, Clarkson is a pretty big name in the Salt Lake City area. Unfortunately, KUTV reporter Hayley Crombleholme didnít realize she was talking to Clarkson on the street when doing a feature on the Jazz on Friday. What resulted is a hilarious and almost surreal scene as Clarkson is interviewed like a regular person on the street. Only after the interview had transpired is when Crombleholme realized her mistake, and owned up to it too on Twitter!
    Ė via Mary Clarke @ For The Win

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50248948...broadcast-team

    Harpring, who has been on the Jazz broadcast team since he retired in 2010, was not announced as part of the this season's broadcast crew. The Jazz also chose not to bring back sideline reporter Kristen Kenney.
    sweet!

    Craig Bolerjack will return as the team's TV play-by-play man with Thurl Bailey and Rowe serving as analysts. David Locke and Ron Boone will continue their longtime partnership on the radio.
    not so sweet. No sideline reporter?

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50248688...-training-camp

    As for Mitchell, there's no reason to think the sprained ankle he re-aggravated during the playoffs will cause him any trouble after an offseason ó albeit a short one ó to rest.
    there should be. Once you've had a bad sprain they're never the same

    Jazz head coach Quin Snyder hasn't been afraid to throw rookies into the mix early if they prove worthy, with Donovan Mitchell being the most obvious example. Butler won't be Mitchell, but that doesn't mean he still can't earn time.
    has been the past couple years. Hopefully better than Mitchell and plays D and passes the ball

    Ingles wore down toward the end of the season, and Conley and Mitchell both had injuries. The best thing for the Jazz is for Mitchell and Conley to run things, but it might prove beneficial to give them more breaks to help keep them fresh for games that really matter in the postseason. Utah looks to have more options to do that this season.
    best thing is for Conley and Ingles too and then Forrest

    Rudy Gay has made a career of adjusting his game to fit in with whatever team he's on. He was once a high-scoring shooting guard; and years later, he will likely be asked to play some small-ball five.
    sf. Doubt he ever played much guard

    Gay gives Snyder a player he rarely has: a true stretch big that could open up the offense even more. Rudy Gobert also showed during France's Olympic run that he can seal smaller defenders in the post in order to score down low. That's something the Jazz have rarely experimented with in the past. Will that change this season?
    hopefully the coach changes

    James joins Forrest as the two-way players. Honestly, if you are looking for a player to earn a spot on the standard roster, it may be Forrest. Under his current deal, he'll only be allowed to appear in 50 games this season.
    and yet we keep talking about him being a factor

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://www.deseret.com/2021/9/24/22...lerjack-bailey

    Mike Smith is in the photo as well and he wasn't mentioned.

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://www.deseret.com/2021/9/24/22...e-on-this-team

    Does Miye Oni have a place on this Jazz team?
    He should. Got potential and COTY likes him. Good end of the bench energy guy minimum

    If the Jazz are looking for a 10th man, they could turn to rookie Jared Butler or two-way player Trent Forrest, or Elijah Hughes, who continues to develop, and of course it could be Oni.
    Hughes is the guy that needs to go

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    Default Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

    https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...s-donovan-rudy

    Time is a luxury in the NBA. Some Jazz players are running out of it.
    we'll see. Jazz are known for their patience. COTY still has a job. Clarkson is still on the team.

    Like we recently saw with Jarrell Brantley, teams are willing to cut their losses with a player sooner than later. He was a player with some gifted physical tools who couldnít figure out a way to harness his wild play and turnovers. After a few seasons, they saw enough. For a couple of Jazz players, this season will likely be their last opportunity to prove if they have real NBA chops or not. Hereís a look into that:
    not true. He looked good the few times he played quality minutes

    I think it goes without saying that, due to a lot of factors out of his control, Hughes has hasnít had a plethora of opportunity to grow as a player. This is obviously unfortunate and disappointing, especially since he has some very solid offensive tools that could translate well into a real NBA game. The issue is, Hughes is already 23 years old and hasnít necessarily proved that his extra years of collegiate experience are doing him any significant favors in the NBA. Heís still a pretty subpar defender (albeit he did show some improvement in that department over the summer) and not the most efficient scorer with the ball in his hands.
    a two year guaranteed contract is two more years of chances than he deserved

    I was really hoping to see him blossom during summer league. He had moments where he showed that his ability to create off the dribble, shoot from three, and playmake is real. He just didnít show it very consistently. For players like Hughes, guys who need the ball in their hands to show off their effectiveness, carving out an end-of-rotation role is really difficult. Most teams donít feel entirely comfortable allowing a second round pick to come into a game and dominate the ball. Itís a large reason why I worry for him. To lay some foundation for his future with the Jazz, I think Hughes really needs to focus on becoming an average defender and an above average three point shooter. I know thatís almost a universal ďhow to make it to the NBAĒ blueprint, but exists for a reason. Players who can come into a game, hit a few shots, and stay in front of their guy tend to stick in this league. Hughesí ability to create out of a pick and roll will only elevate his game in the future, he just needs to find his way on the court right now. If he canít find a way to do that this season, Iím not sure how much longer heíll stay around.
    more worried about the Jazz if he's not cut before the season starts. Wasn't a 3 point shooted or defender when they drafted him. Asking a lot

    However, as mentioned in some previous SLC Dunk articles, thatís just about all Oni has going for him at the moment. Honestly, it is a little disappointing that in the two years Oni has been with the Jazz, his offensive game hasnít grown. Similar to Hughes, a lot of this can be blamed on factors out of his control. Nonetheless, while watching him during summer league, it was clear that he just wasnít very comfortable on that side of the ball. Even in some catch and shoot situations, Oni would be caught with his legs straight, feet not set, and generally not ready to shoot the ball. That just won't fly when heís playing real NBA minutes.
    showed plenty with the Stars

    I think both Hughes and Oni have real NBA potential. Theyíve both had moments where theyíve shown that they could make a serious impact on this roster. But to put it simply, if they donít find a way to put things together this season, Iím not sure how safe their future with the Jazz is.
    Oni does. Hughes has shown nothing other than he thinks he's the next Clarkson.

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