The GOAT standard: 3peat

[3ba11]

Yep, although i consider wilt a tad bit lower than them.

Do you think Russell is MVP-caliber in the modern era? All the MVP's in 3-pointer basketball (since 1980) are dominant offensive players

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Also won multiple titles shooting 35-36%FG as a low-volume scorer as a 4th option. He did have some great runs but the 11 rings solely rests on his team being the most stacked all-time when looking at the amount of HOFers they had and how little competition the Celtics actually faced for the majority of those runs. His impact on the game outside of the court far exceeds his playing career IMO. It's impossible to rank him fairly all-time, the pre-80s players should be ranked separately and that will likely become the meta in the future as there's just so many different eras & players.

He doesn't have to score to prove he's such an effective player when it came to leadership.

[3ba11]

He doesn't have to score to prove he's such an effective player when it came to leadership.

How hard is it to lead 9 HOF teammates

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Do you think Russell is MVP-caliber in the modern era? All the MVP's in 3-pointer basketball (since 1980) are dominant offensive players

And michael jordan only started to become mvp multiple times once scottie pippen started playing in the league. The wonders he brought to his career is so great af, don't you think?

[kennethdrippin]

kobe came 2 wins from 3 peating without shaq. left that sink in


also let sink in the fact that kobe has 2 threepeats if not for the original big 3 collusion and bynum/ariza's injuries

kobe SHOULD be a 6 time champ and 2 time 3 peat champion

[3ba11]

And michael jordan only started to become mvp multiple times once scottie pippen started playing in the league. The wonders he brought to his career is so great af, don't you think?

40 straight offensively-dominant MVP's means more than continuing an upward trajectory (improving from #2 to #1 in MVP)

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40 straight offensively-dominant MVP's means more than continuing an upward trajectory (improving from #2 to #1 in MVP)

Yet you can't deny that he was the catalyst to this.

[deathawaitu]

kobe came 2 wins from 3 peating without shaq. left that sink in


also let sink in the fact that kobe has 2 threepeats if not for the original big 3 collusion and bynum/ariza's injuries

kobe SHOULD be a 6 time champ and 2 time 3 peat champion

Kobe almost did it but didn’t

However, the general consensus in the real world will always be

MJ>Kobe>Lebron

Only a few butt hurtbutt keyboard forum warrior Lebron stans will say otherwise