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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
The difference between bad and good acting
First clip was a TV movie directed by Michael Mann, same director who made Heat, both are pretty much the same story and characters, but different actors.
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I hit open 5-foot jumpshots with ease
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
the best actors are guys like
- Garry Oldman
- Daniel Day Lewis
- Philip Seymour Hoffman
- Joaquin Phoenix
- Viggo Mortensen
- Robert Shaw
- Dustin Hoffman
- Heath Ledger
these guys could become completely other people and believable doing it
i don't consider people just being amplified versions of themselves as great actors like robert deniro, jack nicholson, al pacino etc...
how hard is it to be believable when you're just being yourself. deniro has literally played himself in every single movie hes ever been in. most overrated actor ever. no different than a christopher walken character. type cast as hell
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by kennygriffin
the best actors are guys like
- Garry Oldman
- Daniel Day Lewis
- Philip Seymour Hoffman
- Joaquin Phoenix
- Viggo Mortensen
- Robert Shaw
- Dustin Hoffman
- Heath Ledger
these guys could become completely other people and believable doing it
i don't consider people just being amplified versions of themselves as great actors like robert deniro, jack nicholson, al pacino etc...
how hard is it to be believable when you're just being yourself. deniro has literally played himself in every single movies hes ever been in. most overrated actor ever. no different than a christopher walken character. type cast as hell
I can somewhat agree with DeNiro, although he has shown some versatility. His douchebag character in Mean Streets is pretty much the exact opposite of what he was in Taxi Driver, also played a charismatic Al Capone in The Untouchables.
Pacino also has a rep of being the same shouting guy, but look how he played Michael Corleone, super calculated, soft spoken, & cold. Insomnia is another good example, Pacino was low energy in that movie, but he still nailed the part. Pacino to me has always been one of my favorites, he just dominates a scene.
Both DeNiro & Pacino don't have the versatilty of a Gary Oldman or Daniel Day Lewis, but they both have given all-time great movie performances.
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Local High School Star
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
How hard is it to be believable when you're just being yourself? Ask Oldman and DDL. They don't do understated and nuanced.
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Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Rober De Niro is a bum. Kid I went to school with is an actor that always swore what a turd actor De Niro is, and he wuz rite sucka. Roberto is a gaylord focker
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NBA Superstar
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by kennygriffin
al pacino etc...
You are absolutely clueless.
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I hit open 5-foot jumpshots with ease
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by SATAN
You are absolutely clueless.
a robot coulda played him in the godfather. the most blank emotionless character ever lol
his Cuban accent was the worst ever in scarface. that's why Scott hall sounded so retarded and fake since he copied him
and after that he just plays himself in everything. that movie where he's blind was hilarious. least convincing blind person ever. like man.. they know which direction you sorta are. blind people don't continue looking at the wall if they know you're standing in front of then. looked more like he was playing an autistic rainmaker character
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Re: The difference between bad and good acting
I feel good or bad acting depends on the director. There are movies where completely unknown actors are great. i.e City of God.
But sometimes actors do go above and beyond. i.e Heath Ledger's Joker.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Leonardo DiCaprio is another incredible actor who never seems to get enough praise.
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by dankok8
Leonardo DiCaprio is another incredible actor who never seems to get enough praise.
leo = the goat
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NBA Superstar
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by kennygriffin
a robot coulda played him in the godfather. the most blank emotionless character ever lol
his Cuban accent was the worst ever in scarface. that's why Scott hall sounded so retarded and fake since he copied him
and after that he just plays himself in everything. that movie where he's blind was hilarious. least convincing blind person ever. like man.. they know which direction you sorta are. blind people don't continue looking at the wall if they know you're standing in front of then. looked more like he was playing an autistic rainmaker character
He doesn't only do movies. You are clueless.
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The Renaissance man
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
First clip was a TV movie directed by Michael Mann, same director who made Heat, both are pretty much the same story and characters, but different actors.
In that particular clip, I believe Robert de Niro had even better acting than Pacino. Pacino seems a bit uncomfortable or perhaps distracted even though his acting was very good.
I believe Pacino is the overall more believable actor & probably slightly better in his body language, but Robert de Niro had better roles/characters/writers/directors working with him & is definitely more versatile. Pacino was in too many crappy movies and didn't have a few solid consistent directors to work with like Scorsese throughout his career.
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NBA Superstar
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by bladefd
Pacino seems a bit uncomfortable or perhaps distracted even though his acting was very good.
He's just playing the character and the situation.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by bladefd
In that particular clip, I believe Robert de Niro had even better acting than Pacino. Pacino seems a bit uncomfortable or perhaps distracted even though his acting was very good.
His character was high on Cocaine alot, they just never showed him doing it in the movie.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: The difference between bad and good acting
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
First clip was a TV movie directed by Michael Mann, same director who made Heat, both are pretty much the same story and characters, but different actors.
Aside from acting the set, equipment and post production plays a huge role. Put DeNiro and Pacino in the first setting and it would look cheap aswell.
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