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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by Axe
Despite those, kobe never choked in a finals game 7 unlike your precious hero wilt.
Shooting 6 for 24 in a finals game seven is clearly choking.
Plus the only reason why he won that game seven was due to the REF's helping the Lakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jM0aITPms
I remember being amazed that Gasol wasn’t being called for fouls that game. He had 0 in the full 24 minutes he played in the second half.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...006170LAL.html
When truthfully Gasol could have easily had 3 to 4 fouls called against him in the second half.
If you rewatch that 2010 finals game seven there was a clear inconsistency between how the Ref's called it in Q1-Q3 vs. Q4, and then a clear inconsistency in Q4 between how they called it for the Lakers vs. the Celtics.
Some ridiculous number of FTs for the Lakers in Q4, like 20, that was more than what the Celtics had all game, and it was not like the Lakers were living in the paint while the Celtics were only shooting perimeter jumpers.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by 3ba11
I hated Kobe during the entire 2000's... I despised him - I even called into a radio show to go off on him...
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by coastalmarker99
Here are Kobe's finals stats
2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%
^^^ kobe's stats as 2nd option from 00-04' don't count
Only his stats as 1st optioon count (08-10')
and Kobe was undertaking a greater burden in those years than Lebron ever did because Kobe won with a true 2nd option that averaged far less, while Lebron won with elite 1st options as sidekick that matched Lebron's scoring and therefore attracted equal defensive attention (thus inflating Bron's efficiency compared to Kobe's)..
We all saw the 15' Playoffs when Lebron didn't have an elite 1st option to play sidekick and match his scoring (therefore attracting equal defensive attention)... Lebron's efficiency was just as bad as Kobe's when he was in the same situation as Kobe
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
what's more embarrassing. winning with injuries and shooting less efficient during a time when refs swallowed their whistles in the finals and everyone shot less%
or choking as many times as lebron has and being known as the biggest loser in finals history as a league mvp.
kobe isn't remembered as a poor finals performer because he's 5-2.. he has legit titles and won with 2 teams that basically had nothing but an OK sidekick
kobe is remembered far more fondly as a winner than lebron and that eats you up inside you racoon faced loser lmao
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by kennygriffin
what's more embarrassing. winning with injuries and shooting less efficient during a time when refs swallowed their whistles in the finals and everyone shot less%
or choking as many times as lebron has and being known as the biggest loser in finals history as a league mvp.
kobe isn't remembered as a poor finals performer because he's 5-2.. he has legit titles and won with 2 teams that basically had nothing but an OK sidekick
kobe is remembered far more fondly as a winner than lebron and that eats you up inside you racoon faced loser lmao
Well, kong has twice the finals mvps mamba's ever had and the most for active players still playing in the league today. Go figure.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Kobe is better than Lebron also has more titles in the same era without switching teams having to win the same amount of series to do so.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by kennygriffin
what's more embarrassing. winning with injuries and shooting less efficient during a time when refs swallowed their whistles in the finals and everyone shot less%
or choking as many times as lebron has and being known as the biggest loser in finals history as a league mvp.
kobe isn't remembered as a poor finals performer because he's 5-2.. he has legit titles and won with 2 teams that basically had nothing but an OK sidekick
kobe is remembered far more fondly as a winner than lebron and that eats you up inside you racoon faced loser lmao
Kobe is 5-2 because of Shaq, imagine LeBron playing with someone who had a top 3 peak ever.
Only choke LeBron has is 2011, for Kobe the choking is endless, 2004 Finals, game 7 vs Boston in 2010, choked 3-1 lead vs Suns, the countless airballs vs the Jazz.
And people forget, Kobe choked vs the same Mavs team LeBron choked against...
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Looking at Kobe in the 2000 finals.
Game 1: Shaq had 43 while Kobe had just 14. Lakers were up just 6 going into the 4th, Kobe didn't even make a shot in the 4th while Shaq dominated and Fox added 9 to pull away for the win.
Game 2: Shaq had 40 while Kobe had just 2 before leaving with an injury in the 2nd quarter. Lakers won anyway behind 21 each from Glen Rice and Harper.
Game 3: Kobe didn't play
Game 4: In regulation Kobe (20 points on 22 shots) was dominated by Reggie Miller (33 points on 17 shots), but Shaq had 36 points including 14 in the 4th to get the Lakers to overtime.
Kobe had that great overtime with those 2 big jumpers after Shaq fouled out with 2 minutes left, but the Lakers were already up 3 when that happened and never trailed in overtime anyway.
Game 5: Kobe shot 4-20 for just 8 points and the Lakers got blown out despite 35 from Shaq.
Game 6: Shaq has 41 on 19-32 to clinch the series, while Kobe had just 26 on 8-27 shooting. Lakers were down 5 going into the 4th, Shaq went 6-6 in the 4th while Kobe was ass shooting just 1-7. Horry/Fisher/Fox came through with clutch 3s to secure the win.
Kobe was 3-15 combined in the fourth quarters of the 2000 finals and people still want to claim he is some clutch GOD.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Does OP think he's a ISH journalist? What a fat loser
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by 3ba11
I hated Kobe during the entire 2000's... I despised him - I even called into a radio show to go off on him... I didn't think I could hate anyone more than him, until Lebron and his fraud came along, which enlightened me to Kobe's greatness.. Lebron made me realize how crappy ball-dominators really are - if a 6'9" ball-dominator that's build like Karl Malone can barely win, then the ball-dominant skillset is just a shit skillset compared to guys like MJ, Kobe or Bird.
I hated on Kobe pretty good until the late 2000’s when he went on that run and finished with the back 2 back. The way he carried that team was impressive to say the least. It’s pretty tough to hate on him after that.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by coastalmarker99
Looking at Kobe in the 2000 finals.
Game 1: Shaq had 43 while Kobe had just 14. Lakers were up just 6 going into the 4th, Kobe didn't even make a shot in the 4th while Shaq dominated and Fox added 9 to pull away for the win.
Game 2: Shaq had 40 while Kobe had just 2 before leaving with an injury in the 2nd quarter. Lakers won anyway behind 21 each from Glen Rice and Harper.
Game 3: Kobe didn't play
Game 4: In regulation Kobe (20 points on 22 shots) was dominated by Reggie Miller (33 points on 17 shots), but Shaq had 36 points including 14 in the 4th to get the Lakers to overtime.
Kobe had that great overtime with those 2 big jumpers after Shaq fouled out with 2 minutes left, but the Lakers were already up 3 when that happened and never trailed in overtime anyway.
Game 5: Kobe shot 4-20 for just 8 points and the Lakers got blown out despite 35 from Shaq.
Game 6: Shaq has 41 on 19-32 to clinch the series, while Kobe had just 26 on 8-27 shooting. Lakers were down 5 going into the 4th, Shaq went 6-6 in the 4th while Kobe was ass shooting just 1-7. Horry/Fisher/Fox came through with clutch 3s to secure the win.
Kobe was 3-15 combined in the fourth quarters of the 2000 finals and people still want to claim he is some clutch GOD.
The reality is Kobe missed much more game winning shots than he made, but people want to praise him cause he always wanted the ball in his hands, that doesn't make you clutch, it makes you delusional. Only Kobe would clank a game winning shot while being triple teamed, the numbers don't lie, LeBron in the clutch is better than Kobe.
Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 08-15-2021 at 11:18 PM.
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by Axe
Well, kong has twice the finals mvps mamba's ever had and the most for active players still playing in the league today. Go figure.
queen has 3 times the finals losses. and the average fan values kobes rings over lebrons regardless of the finals mvp count due to obvious asterisks. everybody and their dog knows about lebrons ring chasing and bail outs in fake seasons with colluded super teams. nobody respects him. even giannis the nicest guy in the world called his ass out. it's embarrassing
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
The reality is Kobe missed much more game winning shots than he made, but people want to praise him cause he always wanted the ball in his hands, that doesn't make you clutch, it makes you delusional. Only Kobe would clank a game winning shot despite being triple teamed, the numbers don't lie, LeBron in the clutch is better than Kobe.
and kobe made more game winners than anyone's made. the average fan only sees the 40 or so game winning shots and those percentages you and your online virgin crew of misfits obsess over isn't important. nobody cares that kobe has the balls to take every game winner and misses. they care that he made a sh*t ton and gave his team victories they shouldn't have had. being shook and avoiding those situations or running from the free throw line is all people remember from lebron
when people take a shot at their waste basket woth a ball off paper they don't yell "lebron!"
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Re: 3ball slips up, reveals self to be a butthurt Kobe stan just using MJ to attack L
Nobody touched MJ more than Kobe
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