Is the reported 99.98% covid overall survival rate bullshit?

[Cleverness]

We are going to find out the hard way how Delta effects young people with schools open.

How many children have been infected by Covid-19 so far in the US?

How many children have died from Covid-19 since March 2020? (How many were otherwise healthy?)

How many children have died from all causes since March 2020?

tontoz doesn't back up any of his bizarre assertions. He's been making them over and over again in other threads, but ducks and dodges at every opportunity to support his assertions. He's simply a sheep who believes in forced lockdowns, forced masking, forced vaccinations, etc.


Btw:

Per the CDC and their COVID-19 Vaccine safety updates (link)

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-17 year olds, 200 hospitalizations & 1 death from Covid-19 would be prevented.

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-15 year olds & 16-25 year olds, 3000 events in which medical care in ER/hospital would occur from vaccination.

[LAL]

Delta was made up as an excuse for these non working vaccines. Can't wait to see what else they have in store for some of you idiots.

[Bill Gates]

That's why I continue to educate people

[tontoz]

Delta was made up as an excuse for these non working vaccines. Can't wait to see what else they have in store for some of you idiots.

Fact1: older people are far more likely to be hospitalized by COVID.

Fact 2 older people are more likely to be vaccinated.

Fact 3: older people were first in line to get vaccinated. Younger people had to wait until the older people had their shots.


Fact 4: The vaccine loses effectiveness over time, meaning that the vaccinations are losing some of their effectiveness for the older people that were first to get them.

These 4 facts make the.chart below even more alarming.

[MrFonzworth]

One symptom of major autism is starting paragraphs with "OK,"

[Chuckbe]

One symptom of major autism is starting paragraphs with "OK,"

[SATAN]

Why haven't any really famous people died from covid? I mean, with 650K reported dead (LOL), you'd think a handful of notable people would have died by now. Its the law of averages. But, basically nada. I guess covid discriminates by class or something.

You are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen.

[n00bie]

Fact1: older people are far more likely to be hospitalized by COVID.

Fact 2 older people are more likely to be vaccinated.

Fact 3: older people were first in line to get vaccinated. Younger people had to wait until the older people had their shots.


Fact 4: The vaccine loses effectiveness over time, meaning that the vaccinations are losing some of their effectiveness for the older people that were first to get them.

These 4 facts make the.chart below even more alarming.

The only reason for lockdowns now is if the unvaccinated takes up too many hospital beds.

Instead of future lockdowns, I foresee the govt moving unvaccinated patients to pop-up hospitals for unvaccinated covid patients only. They'll probably have longer wait times & less resources.

[baudkarma]

The 99.98% survival rate figure originated in a Tweet from conservative blogger Emma A. Jiminez. The Tweet was titled "CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates". The 99.98% was the survival rate reported for the 20-49 age group. Her Tweet was retweeted, Facebooked, Instagrammed, and shared on other social media platforms. Many people focused on the 99.98% number because that was their own age group, and they were using it as justification for not getting the vaccine. Soon, some people were quoting 99.98% as the overall survival rate for Covid-19.

The problem is that those numbers are made up. They're fictitious. The CDC has said on numerous occasions that they have never released any age-related mortality figures for Covid. To quote a CDC spokesperson:

"Survival analysis is highly complex. CDC does not have the data to calculate survivability for COVID-19. Unclear as to where social media users are getting this information."

The CDC quote is several months old (Dec 2020) but so is the tweet with the 99.98% survival figure.

[tpols]

Of course its bullshit. In the USA we had less than 1000 flu deaths last year when we usually have anywhere from 30-60k. (re-brand)

Anybody that was old with diabetes, heart disease or cancer was classified as COVID death. Easy to hit 650k when you fraudulently classify the deaths and literally pay hospitals to report as such. (this is a fact...the government paid hospital associations for every COVID count)

The actual survival % is much higher.

[Cleverness]

The only reason for lockdowns now is if the unvaccinated takes up too many hospital beds.

There are 3,006 counties and 50 states in the US.

Which ones were overwhelmed by Covid-19 in 2020? 2021?

[Cleverness]

The 99.98% survival rate figure originated in a Tweet from conservative blogger Emma A. Jiminez. The Tweet was titled "CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates". The 99.98% was the survival rate reported for the 20-49 age group. Her Tweet was retweeted, Facebooked, Instagrammed, and shared on other social media platforms. Many people focused on the 99.98% number because that was their own age group, and they were using it as justification for not getting the vaccine. Soon, some people were quoting 99.98% as the overall survival rate for Covid-19.

The problem is that those numbers are made up. They're fictitious. The CDC has said on numerous occasions that they have never released any age-related mortality figures for Covid. To quote a CDC spokesperson:

"Survival analysis is highly complex. CDC does not have the data to calculate survivability for COVID-19. Unclear as to where social media users are getting this information."

The CDC quote is several months old (Dec 2020) but so is the tweet with the 99.98% survival figure.

The numbers are based on actual data from the CDC and based on the CDC's best estimate for IFR. I wouldn't call them "fictitious."

Please read and learn:

As I've recently posted, here is the CDC's latest estimate:

99.999% survival rate in people 0-17

99.96% survival rate in people under 49

99.94% survival rate in people 18-49 years old

The survival rate is much lower for very old and frail people. For example, if you have 12 comorbidities and are 112 years old and you get Covid-19, your chances of dying within the next 30 days are much higher than if they were a healthy 28-year-old.

Not sure I agree with the CDC that only 1 in 1.3 Covid-19 deaths were reported, though as we've seen, labeling deaths w/ Covid can be tricky when almost all of the people dying were also dying of other causes.

Another thing you need to realize, as I've stated at least 10 times now, is that the number of detected cases is not the same as actual infections or exposures.

The CDC estimates that 1 in 4.2 infections have been reported. So we actually have a total of 40.4 x 4.2 = 170 million cumulative infections (per latest CDC model) and cumulatively no known infections prevented by 12-18+ months of masks, lockdowns, school closures, travel bans, etc.

[Cleverness]

Correction: 99.96% survival rate in people under 50* per CDC's latest best estimate.