What should we do about climate change?

[Norcaliblunt]

Yup all the toxic shit humans produce kills the planet, but not us. Lol. All this toxicity in the atmosphere has a detrimental impact on the environment but not your health. Lol.


Y’all are idiots. Keep dying. Lol.

[Norcaliblunt]

Humans are a huge part of the cause. It's all connected. The more greenhouse gases enter the atmosphere, the more energy gets trapped from escaping our atmosphere. The more energy gets trapped, the warmer the land/oceans/etc get as they absorb the excess heat. The warmer it gets, the more evaporation you get (ice caps/glaciers melt more too so water level rises too). The more evaporation you get, the more precipitation you get. More precipitation means more and stronger hurricanes/typhoons. More hurricanes means more destruction of people/infrastructure/forests/wildlife/etc.

^ All of those things are positive amplifications, making matters worse for us as time passes. Some of them also help contribute to forest fires, deforestation and desertification, which further amplifies climate change/global warming.

We humans are mostly responsible for the excess greenhouse gases entering the atmosphere without a doubt. It's mainly two gases causing misery due to the extreme amounts.. CO2 from coal/oil/gas and methane from excess animal breeding (cattle) for our consumption. Other lesser amounts include NO2 from agriculture waste and other fluorides.

Fewer ice caps/glacier coverage also means there is less sunlight being reflected back into space, which means more energy gets absorbed into the land/water rather than reflected back into space (look up 'albedo effect')... This is yet more positive amplification.

As far as the point of return goes, we will never truly know. No climate scientist or computer prediction model can tell you "Year x is the point of no-return" with 100% certainty. It could be 2020 or 2220. It will also never end the Earth. Having said that, it still does not disprove any of the facts posted above, and it certainly does not disprove climate change/global warming/whatever synonym you want to use. It also does not dispute the fact that we need to focus on expanding clean renewable energy (and nuclear energy).. We must resist coal, oil and natural gas. Coal should have been gone this decade.



What should we do?

Technology won't bring back extinct animals (yes, I know about Jurassic Park but you can never bring back pure breeds - only hybrids and you can't know about unintended consequences like in Jurassic Park) and won't bring back ancient forests/rain-forests we are burning down. Technology alone isn't the answer but technology + behavior shift together.

Behavior change examples:
-We need to eat much less meat and breed less farm animals for our consumption. They take up too much open land for grazing (results in fewer trees/forests as the land is cleared out) and release too much methane. Another possible solution: more fake meat.
-We need to bring down population growth. Earth can't sustain more than ~20 billion people max , 10-12 billion is a good balance imo to maintain high quality of life.
-Stop overfishing. Eat less fish. We need more plant-based diet with some meat/fish than vice versa.
-Switch to biodegradable plastic across the board. No non-biodegradable plastic bags and plastic water bottles.
-Retraining for those doing jobs in coal, oil, and eventually natural gas sectors into solar, nuclear, wind, hydro, etc. Transition faster.
-Some carbon capture technology usage to take some carbon out of the atmosphere back into storage/solid state. You don't want to overdo this because you don't want unintended consequences from excessively artificially screwing around with the Earth's processes.
etcetc

Yup covid is BS. You explained it plain and simple. If the earths dying then you are dying. And it isn’t from a virus. You explained it perfectly. Thank you.

[Jasper]

10,000 years from now, when humans look back on this generation, they'll be laughing and mocking us for thinking the world was coming to an end.

you actually believe our human race will exist then lmao

[j3lademaster]

you actually believe our human race will exist then lmao

With growing technology to mitigate potential global disaster, why not? Sure we're destroying the world right now, but scientists don't know where that point of no return "tipping point" is. We can still save ourselves, and hopefully the next generations will learn from our mistakes. As a race we will eventually become more and more educated, not matter how many try to deter it.

[oldtimer28]

With growing technology to mitigate potential global disaster, why not? Sure we're destroying the world right now, but scientists don't know where that point of no return "tipping point" is. We can still save ourselves, and hopefully the next generations will learn from our mistakes. As a race we will eventually become more and more educated, not matter how many try to deter it.

Educated? It's the reverse now hence this thread but some couldn't even address the OP. Straight to repeating propaganda.

[Rocket]

[oldtimer28]

They don't believe in communism enslaving them but they believe in the solar system destroying them and aliens coming to visit.

The most easily manipulated people in history.

Their soul-ar system is being destroyed all-right.

What scares me is that i believe comunism is about the ends justify the means and we must act for the greater good.

Thus true believers in climate change might justify totalitarian control for the betterment of the planet and humankind.

[Axe]

Yes, producing and disposing of 15ish billion face masks per day will surely help the environment

Lmao i never said anything about it being good or harmful for the environment but wearing them will make you less vulnerable to air pollution somehow.