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    Default Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    The establishment is about to divorce itself from the dysfunctional left as it's not looking to pass carbon regulations due to this "energy crisis" that came out of nowhere.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Biden will not win another term. Congrats.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-politics-live

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rem...uring-officers
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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    the reconciliation bill? it's all show. joe manchin is the fall guy because it's convenient for him - he's a dem representing a trump state and has big ties to corporate america - namely big oil & gas (hence climate provisions being removed from the bill). if you do your research (you'll have to know where to look because msm is completely incompetent in this regard), you'll blow your mind learning how corrupt not only he is, but his daughter as well.

    the real one getting rolled here is joe biden. it's HIS agenda and he's getting steamrolled by two of his own.

    anyway, the $3.5 trillion bill is a drop in the bucket. it's less than 2% of gdp over the course of ten years and something the middle and working class are basically owed after the massive wealth redistribution that took place during the pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    the reconciliation bill? it's all show. joe manchin is the fall guy because it's convenient for him - he's a dem representing a trump state and has big ties to corporate america - namely big oil & gas (hence climate provisions being removed from the bill). if you do your research (you'll have to know where to look because msm is completely incompetent in this regard), you'll blow your mind learning how corrupt not only he is, but his daughter as well.

    the real one getting rolled here is joe biden. it's HIS agenda and he's getting steamrolled by two of his own.

    anyway, the $3.5 trillion bill is a drop in the bucket. it's less than 2% of gdp over the course of ten years and something the middle and working class are basically owed after the massive wealth redistribution that took place during the pandemic.
    Manchin has millions and millions of dollars invested in coal and oil. He is straight up corrupt. I read about his daughter too - she belongs in jail for how corrupt she has been. I'm all for calling him out on it and humiliating him publicly. Bernie or someone should come out and trash him publicly. I don't understand why nobody has the balls to do it. Go after him publicly, give speeches targeted at him. Mention the fraud that has been his daughter - take the prick down tbh.

    Manchin is doing what lieberman did back in 2011 and Obama didn't try harder to push the universal health care when he had the chance all because of lieberman. This is a repeat of that except over renewable energy with Manchin and Biden as president.

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    Manchin has millions and millions of dollars invested in coal and oil. He is straight up corrupt. I read about his daughter too - she belongs in jail for how corrupt she has been. I'm all for calling him out on it and humiliating him publicly. Bernie or someone should come out and trash him publicly. I don't understand why nobody has the balls to do it. Go after him publicly, give speeches targeted at him. Mention the fraud that has been his daughter - take the prick down tbh.

    Manchin is doing what lieberman did back in 2011 and Obama didn't try harder to push the universal health care when he had the chance all because of lieberman. This is a repeat of that except over renewable energy with Manchin and Biden as president.



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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    It's frustrating to see idiots like Manchin and Sinema cite the $3.5trillion number without explaining it would be paid for over 10yrs. It's intentional and disingenuous. They both feel like Republican conservatives to me.

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    They both feel like Republican conservatives to me.

    Good.

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    No shit Biden won't win another term? Know how I know? He won't run.

    It will be a legitimate needle in a haystack chance if he makes it to the end of 2024 still as president, but it will be damn near divine intervention if he both runs AND gets re-elected also regardless of how good or bad he is at his job.

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by FultzNationRISE View Post



    bladefd
    bernie actually did write an op-ed calling out manchin in a west virginia (manchin's home state) paper.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...nia-newspaper/

    “This isn’t the first time an out-of-stater has tried to tell West Virginians what is best for them despite having no relationship to our state,” Manchin said in a statement posted on Twitter.
    however, apparently west virginians disagree with manchin:

    In deep red West Virginia, Biden’s $3.5tn spending proposal is immensely popular

    Elizabeth Masters isn’t a natural Joe Biden supporter. A self-described conservative who lives in Parkersburg, in deeply Republican West Virginia, she said she registered to vote in the last election so she could cast a ballot for Donald Trump.

    Masters says she doesn’t approve when people “just stand for a handout” – she doesn’t think the United States should be spending money on undocumented immigrants, for example – but says anything that will “help people that are trying to do for themselves, I’m all for it”.

    To that end, Masters has found herself supportive of efforts by the Biden administration to pass a $3.5tn budget proposal that is full of ambitious plans to help poorer and working class Americans on a range of social issues from childcare to healthcare.

    Though vehemently opposed by Republicans and West Virginia’s own Democratic senator, Joe Manchin, there is some evidence that the proposals contained in the spending plans – which some have likened to the 1930s New Deal – are more popular among grassroots Republicans than their political representatives. That may be especially true in West Virginia, which is a poor, largely white and working class state whose residents would stand to greatly benefit from the Biden effort.
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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    Manchin has millions and millions of dollars invested in coal and oil. He is straight up corrupt. I read about his daughter too - she belongs in jail for how corrupt she has been. I'm all for calling him out on it and humiliating him publicly. Bernie or someone should come out and trash him publicly. I don't understand why nobody has the balls to do it. Go after him publicly, give speeches targeted at him. Mention the fraud that has been his daughter - take the prick down tbh.

    Manchin is doing what lieberman did back in 2011 and Obama didn't try harder to push the universal health care when he had the chance all because of lieberman. This is a repeat of that except over renewable energy with Manchin and Biden as president.
    Trump state and coal and oil = corruption 101(.)

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    Manchin has millions and millions of dollars invested in coal and oil. He is straight up corrupt. I read about his daughter too - she belongs in jail for how corrupt she has been. I'm all for calling him out on it and humiliating him publicly. Bernie or someone should come out and trash him publicly. I don't understand why nobody has the balls to do it. Go after him publicly, give speeches targeted at him. Mention the fraud that has been his daughter - take the prick down tbh.

    Manchin is doing what lieberman did back in 2011 and Obama didn't try harder to push the universal health care when he had the chance all because of lieberman. This is a repeat of that except over renewable energy with Manchin and Biden as president.
    Blade at it again. Why dont you call out bernie and nancy while you are at it for being corrupt

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigKobeFan View Post
    Blade at it again. Why dont you call out bernie and nancy while you are at it for being corrupt
    sanders doesn't take legal bribes from corporate interests. quite the opposite, actually... they're the ones constantly fighting his agenda.

    pelosi and the democrats on the other hand...

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigKobeFan View Post
    Blade at it again. Why dont you call out bernie and nancy while you are at it for being corrupt
    Pelosi, yes. But how is Sanders corrupt? His tax returns are public now. His worst stories by his attackers are about him asking for extra blankets at a hotel. They’re seriously dumb af. He advocates for clean energy which directly goes against the largest energy corps in the world and for med4all which goes against all private healthcare organizations. He stood against Amazon and the real most powerful man in the world(Bezos) during the Alabama union protests. He literally fights against all the possible big donors. And his policies have been consistent for 40+ years.

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    Default Re: Well, the establishment screwed the lefties with lube.

    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    Pelosi, yes. But how is Sanders corrupt? His tax returns are public now. His worst stories by his attackers are about him asking for extra blankets at a hotel. They’re seriously dumb af. He advocates for clean energy which directly goes against the largest energy corps in the world and for med4all which goes against all private healthcare organizations. He stood against Amazon and the real most powerful man in the world(Bezos) during the Alabama union protests. He literally fights against all the possible big donors. And his policies have been consistent for 40+ years.
    Look into America's history of fear with communism and socialism. Ugly stigma. Bernard is not corrupt, he merely has enemies that mudsling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    sanders doesn't take legal bribes from corporate interests. quite the opposite, actually... they're the ones constantly fighting his agenda.

    pelosi and the democrats on the other hand...
    He just takes bribes from the clinton foundation. So much different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    No shit Biden won't win another term? Know how I know? He won't run.

    It will be a legitimate needle in a haystack chance if he makes it to the end of 2024 still as president, but it will be damn near divine intervention if he both runs AND gets re-elected also regardless of how good or bad he is at his job.
    I could honestly see them wheeling this guy out in a wheel chair on life support reading a speech for him lolol

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