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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    ^^^ needed equal-scoring partner, so he never carried the load by averaging far more than everyone like MJ
    Rodman didn't carry the load either but still took FMVP voteS from MJ while avg. 7ppg

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

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    While pippen led the 94 bulls to the playoffs without their first option.

    A perfectly-run triangle and a chip on their shoulder (3-peat swagger and know-how) won 55 but got destroyed in the playoffs.. (3-peat to 2nd Round losers)

    After the 3-peat luster was gone in 95', they were borderline lottery until MJ returned. That was their true state without the 3-peat luster and unique situation they had in 94'

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    Rodman didn't carry the load either but still took FMVP voteS from MJ while avg. 7ppg
    It's like saying that ad should be handed the finals mvp for contributing so well in the 2020 disney bubble.

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    A perfectly-run triangle and a chip on their shoulder (3-peat swagger and know-how) won 55 but got destroyed in the playoffs.. (3-peat to 2nd Round losers)

    After the 3-peat luster was gone in 95', they were borderline lottery until MJ returned. That was their true state without the 3-peat luster and unique situation they had in 94'
    Mj and your true hero kobe never won anything without the triangle.

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    The point was that lebron's margin above his sidekick in the Finals has never been carry-job level, whether it was 2-6 points or the 2-5 that I thought it was.

    The 2-6 or 2-5 amounts don't change the point being made
    Yes it does. The point here is that the only reason you made the amount 10 in the first place is because your original logic required only five, which you foolishly thought LeBron never did. The fact that you did this kills the entire point of this thread. It doesn't feel genuine at all and it's the literal definition of moving goal posts. It invalidates everything you are trying to do because it comes off as desperation on your part to try to save face. It's pathetic.

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Another year, another carry job


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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

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    ONLY MJ LED IN PPG FOR EVERY SERIES (15.4 AVG MARGIN OVER 2ND OPTION)


    ..................PPG for #1 scorer..... PPG for #2 scorer...... Difference


    1985 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. 8.8

    1986 Round 1:...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ 22.7

    1987 Round 1:...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ 15.7

    1988 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ 34.4
    1988 Round 2:...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ 14.6

    1989 Round 1:...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ 25.0
    1989 Round 2:...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ 20.9
    1989 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... 17.7

    1990 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ 14.3
    1990 Round 2:...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ 22.2
    1990 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ 15.5

    1991 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ 9.3
    1991 Round 2:...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ 10.0
    1991 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ 7.8
    1991 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ 10.4


    1992 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. 21.0
    1992 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. 15.3
    1992 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. 11.9
    1992 Round 4:...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. 15.0

    1993 Round 1:...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. 19.0
    1993 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. 12.7
    1993 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. 9.8
    1993 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. 19.8

    1995 Round 1:...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. 15.0
    1995 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. 12.0

    1996 Round 2:...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. 20.4
    1996 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. 11.0
    1996 Round 4:...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. 11.6

    1997 Round 1:...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. 20.6
    1997 Round 2:...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. 4.4
    1997 Round 3:...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. 17.4
    1997 Round 4:...... Jordan 32.3............... S Pippen 20.0.............. 12.3


    1998 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.3............... S Pippen 18.0.............. 18.3
    1998 Round 2:...... Jordan 29.6............... S Pippen 17.8.............. 11.8
    1998 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 16.6.............. 15.1
    1998 Round 3:...... Jordan 33.5............... S Pippen 15.7.............. 17.8

    .................................................. ............................................______
    .................................................. ........................15.4 average difference



    Everyone in history needed equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for numerous playoff runs and Finals, so they didn't always face maximum defensive attention - any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to Jordan, who always faced maximum defensive attention by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintzFury13 View Post
    Yes it does. The point here is that the only reason you made the amount 10 in the first place is because your original logic required only five, which you foolishly thought LeBron never did. The fact that you did this kills the entire point of this thread. It doesn't feel genuine at all and it's the literal definition of moving goal posts. It invalidates everything you are trying to do because it comes off as desperation on your part to try to save face. It's pathetic.

    PLAYOFF PPG

    86' Bird......... 25.1
    86' McHale..... 24.9

    87' Worthy..... 23.6
    87' Magic....... 21.1

    11' Wade....... 24.5
    11' Lebron..... 23.7

    16' Kyrie'....... 25.2
    16' Lebron..... 26.2

    20' AD'.......... 27.7
    20' Lebron..... 27.6


    Everyone in history had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for various playoff runs and Finals, so they didn't face maximum defensive attention - any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to MJ, who always overcame maximum defensive attention/burden by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

    MJ had a 15.4 average margin over 2nd option in every series - see the previous post above.. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only guy that always faced max defensive attention here.

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

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    Default Re: Lebron can't carry scoring load to win a Finals - can't be offensive anchor in Fi

    It’s amazing how Lebron won with 3 different teams and different team mates. Shows he’s by far the best player who ever lived. Other guys like Jordan couldn’t do it and got trashed as soon as they didnt play in their system.

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