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    You didn't provide any facts. More like pointless drivel as usual.
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    it is not a baby until it is born.
    What I wrote, is a fact

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    The small pox vaccine was developed in the 1960s. The Calf Lymph procedure, aka the process of covering a needle with material from cowpox sores and sticking that needle into a person, was immunizing people back in the 18th century, but pretending this process is a "vaccine" in any way that is remotely comparable to modern "vaccines" (especially the new experimental mRNA ones) is beyond laughable.

    If the covid vax simply involved injecting someone elses covid germs into my body, I might actually consider taking it.

    Great point about Jacobsen... I am happy to pay my $150 right now, before I sue... either way I wont be taking any shots.
    LMAO Vaccine is a vaccine modern or old school. YouÂ’re simply grasping at straws.

    Look brah, Langer from MIT is highly respected in bio tech industry. He and his Harvard buddies already saw how mRNA will revolutionize modern medicine.

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    LMAO Vaccine is a vaccine modern or old school. YouÂ’re simply grasping at straws.

    Look brah, Langer from MIT is highly respected in bio tech industry. He and his Harvard buddies already saw how mRNA will revolutionize modern medicine.
    The clown who thinks that smearing pus from a cow pimple into an open wound is remotely comparable to injecting yourself with mRNA says that I am grasping at straws...

    If mRNA is such a revolutionary force, why did it take an emergency use authorization for the tech to reach the public? Its not like Covid is the first time an mRNA drug has been attempted, Moderna tried to bring a dozen drugs to market prior to covid and they all failed in animal trials (how convenient that their covid vax got to skip these trials)

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    The clown who thinks that smearing pus from a cow pimple into an open wound is remotely comparable to injecting yourself with mRNA says that I am grasping at straws...

    If mRNA is such a revolutionary force, why did it take an emergency use authorization for the tech to reach the public? Its not like Covid is the first time an mRNA drug has been attempted, Moderna tried to bring a dozen drugs to market prior to covid and they all failed in animal trials (how convenient that their covid vax got to skip these trials)
    LMAO because Vaccine process approval takes at least 5 years. You think we have the luxury of time waiting for FDA to do their due diligence .

    LMAO Drug approval process takes 10-15 years for approval before even making it to the market. And what drugs are you referring to? Bio tech can work on many drugs that can fail on animal model. Kariko decade research and University of Wisconsin already went through animal trial This is nothing new and so does people being anti vaccine.

    Anyway what is your alternative to Vaccine when it comes to Covid.

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    LMAO because Vaccine process approval takes at least 5 years. You think we have the luxury of time waiting for FDA to do their due diligence .

    LMAO Drug approval process takes 10-15 years for approval before even making it to the market. And what drugs are you referring to? Bio tech can work on many drugs that can fail on animal model. Kariko decade research and University of Wisconsin already went through animal trial This is nothing new and so does people being anti vaccine.

    Anyway what is your alternative to Vaccine when it comes to Covid.
    Great point, an illness with a 99.9% survival rate that is only meaningfully dangerous to people who are old and sick does not give us the luxury of time to do proper clinical trials

    Moderna attempted to bring like 10 mRNA vaccines to market prior to covid gifting them a free pass through clinical trials. Look up any of the clinical trials that Moderna did with ferrets if you want to know why we havent had any mRNA vaccines approved prior to covid giving them the red carpet treatment.

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    Great point, an illness with a 99.9% survival rate that is only meaningfully dangerous to people who are old and sick does not give us the luxury of time to do proper clinical trials

    Moderna attempted to bring like 10 mRNA vaccines to market prior to covid gifting them a free pass through clinical trials. Look up any of the clinical trials that Moderna did with ferrets if you want to know why we havent had any mRNA vaccines approved prior to covid giving them the red carpet treatment.

    LMAO how can you market without FDA approval. Clearly you have no clue on what you talking about

    and Moderna is my core position. They have some vaccines that are fast track by FDA. No point of discussing this because you have no idea .

    Vaccines was emergency approved . If youÂ’re pushing for herd immunity for a
    country that has 40% obese and already has over 700 k of deaths, youÂ’re are pushing for eugenics. LOL why did Sweden inoculated 68.55%

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    You have a financial stake in the covid vaccines? That explains a lot

    You should do some research on your core position. Did you know people were calling them the next theranos before covid came along and let one of their drugs skip all the usual trials? Do you know what happened in the animal trials for every single one of their attempts at a mRNA therapy prior to covid?

    Why does the continent of Africa have 1/3rd of the total deaths as the USA, despite having 4x more residents and a vaccination rate of just 4%? is it because Africans are all wearing masks and social distancing? LMAO indeed you fvcking retard

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    You have a financial stake in the covid vaccines? That explains a lot

    You should do some research on your core position. Did you know people were calling them the next theranos before covid came along and let one of their drugs skip all the usual trials? Do you know what happened in the animal trials for every single one of their attempts at a mRNA therapy prior to covid?

    Why does the continent of Africa have 1/3rd of the total deaths as the USA, despite having 4x more residents and a vaccination rate of just 4%? is it because Africans are all wearing masks and social distancing? LMAO indeed you fvcking retard
    LMAO Theranos are based on a whim and claims that they broke the law of physics until they got exposed by WSJ. You keep reaching for something that is not there. LMAO

    YouÂ’re stating something on Moderna that is afterthought the only difference between the FDA process and Moderna approval is time brah. No one in the right frame of mind submit anything to FDA that failed on animal mode. mRNA was a failure until University of Wisconsin figure out something and Kariko took it to another level .

    Excuses like using Africa.

    Just used North Korea instead .while youÂ’re at. LMAO

    The estimate deaths here with 18-64 years old is 219, 824 and 4.005 million hospitalization.

    do you want to wait for a variant that will kill more young people or worst case scenario , our Children.

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    The clown who thinks that smearing pus from a cow pimple into an open wound is remotely comparable to injecting yourself with mRNA says that I am grasping at straws...

    If mRNA is such a revolutionary force, why did it take an emergency use authorization for the tech to reach the public? Its not like Covid is the first time an mRNA drug has been attempted, Moderna tried to bring a dozen drugs to market prior to covid and they all failed in animal trials (how convenient that their covid vax got to skip these trials)
    Yeah, they sure failed

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29281112/

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    LMAO Theranos are based on a whim and claims that they broke the law of physics until they got exposed by WSJ. You keep reaching for something that is not there. LMAO

    YouÂ’re stating something on Moderna that is afterthought the only difference between the FDA process and Moderna approval is time brah. No one in the right frame of mind submit anything to FDA that failed on animal mode. mRNA was a failure until University of Wisconsin figure out something and Kariko took it to another level .

    Excuses like using Africa.

    Just used North Korea instead .while youÂ’re at. LMAO

    The estimate deaths here with 18-64 years old is 219, 824 and 4.005 million hospitalization.

    do you want to wait for a variant that will kill more young people or worst case scenario , our Children.
    Emergency Use Authorization allows drugs to skip the animal tests entirely... without COVID allowing Moderna to skip animal tests, and without the billions in income they made selling their experimental vaccine, Moderna would probably be facing bankruptcy right now.

    I didnt think you would be able to explain the Africa stats... no doubt stats only matter when you can manipulate them in favor of your increasingly nonsensical and incoherent "arguments"

    The variants will never end, they are created by the vaccinated (its called selection pressure). Anyway, let me know when your boys at Moderna design an updated version of their vax that can protect against any of the variants instead of just the original virus.... maybe then your point will be relevant

    forgot to mention - "LMAO LMAO LMAO "
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    That vaccine is not approved. The only mRNA vaccines that have ever been used outside of clinical trials are the covid vaccines. (although one could argue that the current situation with emergency use is a giant clinical trial)
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    Emergency Use Authorization allows drugs to skip the animal tests entirely... without COVID allowing Moderna to skip animal tests, and without the billions in income they made selling their experimental vaccine, Moderna would probably be facing bankruptcy right now.

    I didnt think you would be able to explain the Africa stats... no doubt stats only matter when you can manipulate them in favor of your increasingly nonsensical and incoherent "arguments"

    The variants will never end, they are created by the vaccinated (its called

    pressure). Anyway, let me know when your boys at Moderna design an updated version of their vax that can protect against any of the variants instead of just the original virus.... maybe then your point will be relevant

    forgot to mention - "LMAO LMAO LMAO "

    LMAO Moderna on bankruptcy. Total cash flow of $8.91 billion profitable and over 3000 % growth yoy.

    Are you trying to imply Moderna never went to human trial.

    FDA approval is on different phases brah. All clinical trials on human. The only difference between the process is time. Normally it takes several years for vaccine to be approved. Like I said due to unprecedented times, it has to be done sooner.

    Moderna efficacy against Delta is 76%. That’s not even without caliberating. The difference between mRNA and the usual vaccines is the mRNA is easy to scale and mass produced. If a new variant emerge , Moderna can calibrate it in weeks time and mass produced it in a month.

    you keep falsely stating Moderna skip animal trial

    how about you provide me a reputable scientific journal that imply your assumption?

    NEJM published the Moderna animal trial. In June last year pre-clinical data from a study on mice was published in Nature. The study demonstrated that the Moderna vaccine elicited neutralising antibodies in mice. Then in July, Moderna published results of an animal study in the New England Journal of Medicine.

    where is your source brah?

    LMAO because you clearly have no clue. Your claims are all based on whims and speculations.
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    That vaccine is not approved. The only mRNA vaccines that have ever been used outside of clinical trials are the covid vaccines. (although one could argue that the current situation with emergency use is a giant clinical trial)

    LMAO You’re too late in the news brah. You’re too stuck with your narrative .

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    LMAO Moderna on bankruptcy. Total cash flow of $8.91 billion profitable and over 3000 % growth yoy.

    Are you trying to imply Moderna never went to human trial.

    FDA approval is on different phases brah. All clinical trials on human. The only difference between the process is time. Normally it takes several years for vaccine to be approved. Like I said due to unprecedented times, it has to be done sooner.

    Moderna efficacy against Delta is 76%. That’s not even without caliberating. The difference between mRNA and the usual vaccines is the mRNA is easy to scale and mass produced. If a new variant emerge , Moderna can calibrate it in weeks time and mass produced it in a month.

    you keep falsely stating Moderna skip animal trial

    how about you provide me a reputable scientific journal that imply your assumption?

    NEJM published the Moderna animal trial. In June last year pre-clinical data from a study on mice was published in Nature. The study demonstrated that the Moderna vaccine elicited neutralising antibodies in mice. Then in July, Moderna published results of an animal study in the New England Journal of Medicine.

    where is your source brah?

    LMAO because you clearly have no clue. Your claims are all based on whims and speculations.
    Yeah like I said Moderna was saved by the billions they made selling their experimental covid vaccine... how much revenue did they make in 2019? or 2018? or 2017? or any other year they have existed? Tell me about all of the drugs Moderna has sold other than their experimental covid vax.

    No Moderna drug ever made it to human trials prior to their covid vax (which only made it to human trials because it was allowed to skip animals). Prove me wrong

    Whats your source for Moderna having 76% efficacy against Delta? Considering the the shot wears off after 6 months, how long does that 76% efficacy last exactly? Also, if mRNA is easy to calibrate for new variants then why havent Pfizer or Moderna updated their covid formula to protect from the new variants? the boosters they are selling are the original (failed) formula

    Any drug given emergency use authorization automatically skips animal trials you dumb fvck, heres the source - https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-infor...ed-authorities

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    LMAO You’re too late in the news brah. You’re too stuck with your narrative .
    prove it

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