For the first 9 yrs of their playoff career (prime), MJ averaged more APG than Lebron

[3ba11]

6.6 > 6.4

Lebron only started averaging more APG in the playoffs after the 15' Warriors changed the game to the current spaced-out, ball-handler-friendly format, when everyone's assists went up.

So Lebron's passing is "manufactured" like everything else.. Is there any aspect of his career that isn't manufactured?..

He formed a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd), and now this?

[TheCorporation]

What about the rest of their careers? Or you just like to stop at 9 like a clown

[ShawkFactory]

It’s always amusing when Lebron haters seem to convince themselves that he isn’t a great passer.

[3ba11]

What about the rest of their careers? Or you just like to stop at 9 like a clown

Do you only read the 1st sentence of an OP?.. The rest answered your question:

Lebron only started averaging more APG in the playoffs after the 15' Warriors changed the game to the current spaced-out, ball-handler-friendly format, when everyone's assists went up.. This was also after their primes (when MJ/Lebron were older).

So Lebron's passing is "manufactured" like everything else.. Is there any aspect of his career that isn't manufactured?..

He formed a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams were winning (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd), and now this?

[j3lademaster]

Is it Deja Vu or did this exact thread get made a few days ago?

[3ba11]

Is it Deja Vu or did this exact thread get made a few days ago?

Negative

The thread you're thinking about is the Ringer.com thread that shows 89' Jordan was a 30/10/10 point guard 30 years before Luka, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, etc... aka futuristic at point guard:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...brook-Luka-etc


That's why the media said that Jordan was already a better PG than Magic, Isiah and Stockton after just 10 games at the new position in 89' - they'd never seen a 30/10/10 point guard in the modern era

[000]

Yep. Lebron sucks at passing, rebounding, defense, scoring, jumpshooting, leadership, clutch, toughness, mamba mentality, etc.

How this bum even made the league is a mystery

[RRR3]

It’s always amusing when Lebron haters seem to convince themselves that he isn’t a great passer.

Lol they can’t admit he’s good at anything. Somehow, according to them, a complete scrub has won 8 combined regular season and finals MVPs.

[3ba11]

Yep. Lebron sucks at passing, rebounding, defense, scoring, jumpshooting, leadership, clutch, toughness, mamba mentality, etc.

How this bum even made the league is a mystery

5 less PPG than MJ in the playoffs on lower efficiency per possession, with less team assists and team offense despite more offensive help (1b's & 3rd scorers), so his small personal assist advantage means exactly nothing

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Damn so even the one LeBron advantage, Jordan still shoves it up his ass. What a damn god.

Only retards and nerds think LeBron is a goat level player anyway. Real ballers know

[000]

5 less PPG than MJ in the playoffs on lower efficiency per possession, with less team assists and team offense despite more offensive help (1b's & 3rd scorers), so his small personal assist advantage means exactly nothing

Agree. Not top 60 of alltime

[3ba11]

Lol they can’t admit he’s good at anything. Somehow, according to them, a complete scrub has won 8 combined regular season and finals MVPs.

Jordan was doing what Lebron, Luka and Westbrook do (30/10/10), except it was 30 years before they were doing it and with a format that wasn't conducive for penetrators like the 2015-present era

So Lebron's passing is a function of today's ball-dominant era and therefore overrated compared to jordan's... And obviously the scoring is no contest - Lebron never carried the scoring load on the Finals level and never beat good teams with bed-wetting teammates, so he can't carry teams like MJ... These are statistical facts and historical record.

[ShawkFactory]

Lol they can’t admit he’s good at anything. Somehow, according to them, a complete scrub has won 8 combined regular season and finals MVPs.

And apparently he's never seen a double in his life. Pretty impressive assist numbers given that, eh? He must be an exceedingly skilled passer.

[3ba11]

And apparently he's never seen a double in his life. Pretty impressive assist numbers given that, eh? He must be an exceedingly skilled passer.

Good post

Except Lebron would get doubled regardless of his passing ability if he had the ability to consistently POP OFF - this commands doubles regardless of passing ability..

Magic had this same affliction (non-elite jumpshooting skill), so he couldn't pop off and command doubles either, except on the post.. Magic could go off on the post so defenses had to double him regardless of his passing.

Ultimately, being able to reach that top level of scoring ability (popping off) controls the game more than anything else, especially if the player is also an elite passer (30/10/10 ability as the ball-dominator), which Jordan was doing 30 years before anyone else.

[ShawkFactory]

Good post

Except Lebron would get doubled regardless of his passing ability if he had the ability to consistently POP OFF - this commands doubles regardless of passing ability..

Magic had this same affliction (non-elite jumpshooting skill), so he couldn't pop off and command doubles either, except on the post.

Ultimately, being able to reach that top level of scoring ability (popping off) controls the game more than anything else, especially if the player is also an elite passer (30/10/10 ability as the ball-dominator), which Jordan was doing 30 years before anyone else.

Yea that's not what we were talking about. Do you do that on purpose or do you forget what the discussion actually was?