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    Default Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    Klutch Sports wrong.. Nick Wright wrong... Lebron fam wrong

    Lebron needed to team-hop for star scorers at 3rd option (super-team) and 2nd options capable of matching his scoring for entire playoff runs or Finals wins (1b's), yet he barely won 4 rings with so many asterisks that it's hard to keep track (2 modified seasons, 1 key suspension, 2 teammate bailouts, and forming super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning like Iverson/Dwight/Kidd)

    In addition to having more help (3rd star scorers and 1b's), Lebron has far less accolades and production rate, aka stats (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, PPG, plus/minus or raptor)
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    Only Jordan won more than 2 Finals without a teammate getting FMVP or averaging 25 ppg in at least one of the Finals
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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    If the copy and paste function broke on 3ball's computer would he cease to exist?

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    I wouldn't be so sure. I think a healthy Lakers team could easily win the title. Warriors are a Curry injury away from being irrelevant, CP3 gets hurt every playoffs, and the Nets have a declined Harden and no Kyrie. For all their struggles, the Lakers are 3.5 games out of 3rd place and 0.5 games out of 4th place! And even with a slightly worse Lebron they have a top 10 player (Davis) and another top 20 player (Westbrook). But of course they have to stay healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hateraid View Post
    If the copy and paste function broke on 3ball's computer would he cease to exist?

    everyone's stats are inflated compared to MJ because they had periods where they didn't face maximum defensive attention, due to equal-scoring partners in various playoff runs to attract equal defensive attention... Only MJ didn't have equal-scoring partners, thereby facing maximum defensive attention for his entire career (UNinflated stats - the baseline - the goat standard to which everyone else is compared).
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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    I guess he’ll have to settle for having only 4 FMVP, 2nd most in NBA history, and double your real favorite players FMVP count.

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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    everyone's stats are inflated compared to MJ because they had periods where they didn't face maximum defensive attention, due to equal-scoring partners in various playoff runs to attract equal defensive attention... Only MJ didn't have equal-scoring partners, thereby facing maximum defensive attention for his entire career (UNinflated stats - the baseline - the goat standard to which everyone else is compared).
    So you answer my post with a copy and paste. Hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    I guess he’ll have to settle for only having 4 FMVP, 2nd most in NBA history, and double your real favorite players count.

    Lebron only learned to team-hop - he never learned to WIN (organic).

    Specifically, his skills never evolved from having the offense revolve around him and the team too reliant on him, similar to MJ before he learned to WIN (organic)...

    Unfortunately, Lebron never learned to win, so he had to team-hop for super-teams (talent-based winning)... He simply imposes spot-up roles that stall young players thereby needing ready-made stars to win - this is talent-based winning, which loses to organic ball movement (lottery record vs Spurs, Mavs, Warriors)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron only learned to team-hop - he never learned to WIN (organic).

    Specifically, his skills never evolved from having the offense revolve around him and the team too reliant on him, similar to MJ before he learned to WIN (organic)... Lebron never learned to win, so he had to team-hop for super-teams (talent-based winning)... He simply imposes spot-up roles that stall young players thereby needing ready-made stars to win
    Copy and paste all you’d like, nothing is going to change the facts I posted above. The fact LeBron is consensus top 2 and even GOAT on some lists proves that despite 8 years and 40,000 posts you lost this thing quite decisively and were dead wrong.

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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    I guess he’ll have to settle for having only 4 FMVP, 2nd most in NBA history, and double your real favorite players FMVP count.
    Yikes he had no answer for this.

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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Copy and paste all you’d like, nothing is going to change the facts I posted above. The fact LeBron is consensus top 2 and even GOAT on some lists proves that despite 8 years and 40,000 posts you lost this thing quite decisively and were dead wrong.

    Lebron ring-chased - he team-hopped to win - he literally joined the #2 PER/VORP/WS/BPM in the league (aka the #2 player) heading into the 2011 season... That's like Magic teaming up with Bird, yet they went 2/4 including goat choke and record loss.. That's the worst anyone can do.

    So stuff your WWE, colluded FMVP's where the sun don't shine - he literally defrauded his way to 10 Finals appearances by forming a super-team in conference that 1-star teams were winning.. Stole Arenas' sidekick to beat Arenas in his first playoff win.. and on and on .. his simpleton skillset always needs MOAR HELP all year long because he's reducing everyone to spot-up shooter..

    he's trash and not top 10 no matter what you hear on the boob toob.. non-elite jumpshooting skill so he can't facilitate ball movement off-ball that busts the game open so his offenses aren't #1 ever
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    Default Re: Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron ring-chased - he team-hopped to win - he literally joined the #2 PER/VORP/WS/BPM in the league (aka the #2 player) heading into the 2011 season... That's like Magic teaming up with Bird, yet they went 2/4 including goat choke and record loss.. That's the worst anyone can do.

    So stuff your WWE, colluded FMVP's where the sun don't shine - he literally defrauded his way to 10 Finals appearances by forming a super-team in conference that 1-star teams were winning.. Stole Arenas' sidekick to beat Arenas in his first playoff win.. and on and on .. his simpleton skillset always needs MOAR HELP all year long because he's reducing everyone to spot-up shooter.. he's trash and not top 10 no matter what you hear on the boob toob.
    So you admit that Lebron was the #1 player in the league in 09 and 10. Nice

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