“Scottie’s the Best Player in the League. You Could Play in the League Right Now” -IT

[iamgine]

So how is that a subtle diss?

Read again.

[Reggie43]

Magic was the same offensive player as Pippen? Thats a new one

[Baller789]

If it's from Isiah, you should automatically know it's bull****

[Gohan]

If scottie was the best jordans era was super weak. Give me iverson over that fraud. Atleast he was was worth watching besides some overrated defensive trash

[Bawkish]

Magic was the same offensive player as Pippen? Thats a new one

Next he's gonna argue why Pip should be the unanimous MVP during 1994 season backed up by a bunch of what ifs and shoulda woulda coulda

[outofstomach]

so what's next, Pip was the same shooter as Bird?

don’t bother replying to that closeted lesexual

[WhiteKyrie]

And?

Wade had arguable stakes as best player in basketball in 2006, 2007 (pre injury), 2009, 2010, and even 2011.

AD had arguments at various times as well and has consistently been a top five caliber player since 2015 ish. According to PER he’s the third best player of all time after MJ and LeBron.

[Elosha]

Garnett and a friend wanted to catch a pickup game that night. But instead of heading to a nearby playground or gym, the two decided it would be fun to sneak into a Chicago Bulls practice.

Jordan had just returned to the Bulls one month before KG played in the McDonald’s All-American Game. So when he and his buddy found their way in, there the two were — MJ and Pippen, practicing together.

Coincidentally, Isiah happened to be in the same gym on the same night, as Garnett wrote in a piece on The Undefeated. After the two-time NBA champ saw what the then-18-year-old did against Scottie, he had a few words for KG:

He came up to me and said something. There wasn’t a hint of hype in his voice. It was just a matter-of-fact, kind statement.

“Kevin,” he said to me, “you just took on Scottie Pippen. Scottie’s the best player in the league. Boy, you could play in the league right now.”

When those words came out of his mouth, the world stopped turning. Time stopped ticking.


But maybe I was hearing him wrong.

“What’d you say?” I asked.

“Boy,” he repeated, this time his eyes getting bigger, “you could play in the league right now.”

It’s clear from the mouth of their very own contemporary that Scottie Pippen and Jordan were 1A and 1B in Chicago, respectively.

When Isaiah Thomas was a commentator for NBC during the Bulls' championship runs, he repeatedly and unequivocally stated Michael Jordan was the greatest player in the NBA currently and of all time on multiple occasions. He used to freely acknowledge Jordan was the best, it's only been in the last 4-5 yrs that he's changed his tune for whatever reason, likely his continuing anger with Jordan over the long-term rivalry, and Jordan's refusal to be friendly to him even when Isaiah repeatedly and glowingly praised Jordan as a commentator after IT's retirement.

Literally no one in the NBA at the time seriously thought Scottie Pippen was greater than Michael Jordan, the idea would be laughable to anyone who actually watched basketball at the time. Once in awhile the idea would be whispered around the NBA, and then Jordan would dominate playoffs or have an amazing scoring run, or at times Pippen would simply not perform up to speed in the playoffs when the pressure counted (not to say he was always bad, he certainly wasn't), and such whispers would quickly die down. Honestly, people who would say such things were often just trying to be provocative and didn't believe it themselves.

[3ba11]

And?

Wade had arguable stakes as best player in basketball in 2006, 2007 (pre injury), 2009, 2010, and even 2011.

AD had arguments at various times as well and has consistently been a top five caliber player since 2015 ish. According to PER he’s the third best player of all time after MJ and LeBron.

Isiah had no respect for Pippen:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P4nBRe4uA9s&t=02m45s


That's first-hand from Isiah, not KG trying to sell books.. I guarantee that young KG was like "did this guy just say pippen is the best player?"

A guy that averaged 21.7 on 40% with historic choke in the 2nd Round against Ewing is the best player in the league?

[3ba11]

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MJ vs Pippen 1988-1998 Playoffs


Jordan.... 33.3.. 6.4.. 5.6.. 2.1.. 0.8.. 56.8 ts.. 28.7 per.. 11.1 bpm.. 0.260 ws/48.. 23.3 vorp
Pippen.... 18.1.. 7.7.. 5.2.. 1.9.. 1.0.. 52.6 ts.. 18.6 per.... 5.1 bpm.. 0.146 ws/48.. 12.6 vorp


MJ has twice the BPM and nearly twice the value above replacement (vorp) or win contribution (ws/48).

[3ba11]

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PLAYOFF PPG

87' Worthy...... 23.6
87' Magic........ 21.8

86' McHale'..... 24.9
86' Bird.......... 25.1

16' Kyrie'........ 25.2
16' Lebron...... 26.2

11' Wade........ 24.5
11' Lebron...... 23.7

20' AD........... 27.7
20' Lebron..... 27.6

^^^ At some point in everyone's career, they had equal-scoring teammates to attract equal defensive attention for various playoff runs, and therefore weren't facing maximum defensive attention - any period without max defensive attention are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who faced max defensive attention for his entire career by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run..

So Jordan's stats are the baseline to which everyone is compared because his stats are the only stats that reflect max defensive attention for an entire career, aka no periods without facing max defensive attention (no inflation).

[bizil]

You can disagree, but at that time, many felt Pippen was no less than a top 5 player in the NBA. Barkley, Thomas, Bird, Rodman, Salley, Malone have all said such. Why do these guys have to lie?

For all intents and purposes, Magic was the same offensive player as Pippen other than Magic was a far better FT shooter. But Pippen was the better athlete. Magic played in an uptempo offense in a fast paced league that was more offensive mined, and only managed to score 2 more points than Pippen did as the man. Facts are facts bro. Maybe you need to reassess your thinking.

LMAO!!! U DON'T KNOW THE GAME if you think Magic and Pip were the same level of scorer. Magic was OBVIOUSLY a better scorer than Pippen. A more SKILLED scorer than Pippen. MORE CLUTCH than Pippen.

U get caught up into the PPG with Magic. THING IS Magic was also getting 11-12 APG as THE POINT GUARD!!! Pip was a great passer for a SF or point forward. BUT Pip WASN'T a natural PG in the old school sense! Magic was!! He was the ULTIMATE pass first point guard!!! On those Lakers teams, Magic DIDN'T need to average 25 PPG! Even though Magic did average 23.9 PPG and 12.2 dimes in a season.

If Magic had enough scoring help (which he did often) he was TOTALLY CONTENT being a pass first, pass second player. If he DIDN'T have as much scoring help, he could amp up his scoring to alpha dog levels. MEANING he could dominate games at the DROP OF A HAT scoring if he wanted or needed to. STUDENTS of the game KNOW Magic was ABSOLUTELY alpha dog level quality scorer. JUST SO HAPPENED he was the greatest floor general who has ever lived. SO HE PLAYED TO THAT STRENGTH FIRST!!! When u play with Kareem,Nixon, McAdoo, Worthy, B Scott, Wilkes, etc., it was a PERFECT FIT for Magic's mindset.

BUT IN REALITY, prime Kareem was the ONLY ONE who was a better actual scorer than Magic on those Lakers teams! When it comes to passing,Magic is top of the heap. Pip is WAY FURTHER DOWN THE CHARTS has a passer. Great for a SF, very good when compared to a PG. And for the cherry on top, MJ was HANDS DOWN a better passer than Pippen! Just so happened MJ was a score first player. Who was the ULTIMATE alpha dog scorer.

[GrayGoat]

If there is no Pip then there is no chip

[WhiteKyrie]

If there is no Pip then there is no chip

But who said otherwise?

I’m sure if Michael was playing with a 90s equivalent in terms of talent, as a Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis? There would’ve been championships just the same.

Mike won 6 of them thangs, with one of them with just one other all star. Imagine if he had two by his side at all times? Hell, he probably could’ve won in the ‘88 - ‘90 seasons as well.

Since he was clearly the best player in the league by 1987.

[expansionera]

Dennis Rodman considered Scottie Pippen 'best player in the world' during Michael Jordan's baseball hiatus

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/d...seball-hiatus/

Uh Jordanbros…? So basically everyone who actually played with and against Pippen acknowledged he was at least the second best player in the NBA at the time Jordan played

Granted IT said Pippen was the best player in the league with Jordan back so we can only extrapolate from his commentary that Pippen had superseded Jordan during that season of incredible play