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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    https://www.thehoopsgeek.com/average-nba-height/ once again this dipshit dosn't have a clue what he's talking about. 2 gaurds and small fowards were pretty much the same height as you can see by facts lol.
    It’s not about the average height of a player but rather their capability, clearly Johnny32 demonstrates the capacity for 6’6+ wing defenders to make all defensive teams in the 00s/10s when defensive schemes became more sophisticated vs the iso heavy 90s wherein players were restricted on the defensive end

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller789 View Post
    Any idea who Johnny32 alt belongs to?
    i have no alt. i heard about this board from griff years ago but barely posted under my og account (vegasfraud).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny32 View Post
    to touch on this further.

    80/90s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

    mj
    rodney mccray
    rodman
    pippen
    majerle
    derrick mckey
    eddie jones

    imagine if kobe's prime was in that ^ era.

    00/10s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

    bowen
    christie
    kobe
    artest
    ak47
    prince
    battier
    lebron
    thabo
    g. wallace
    iggy
    deng
    pg13
    butler
    kawhi
    giannis
    dray
    danny green
    andre roberson
    robert covington
    klay

    instead of that ^ era.
    Whos dray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny32 View Post
    to touch on this further.

    80/90s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

    mj
    rodney mccray
    rodman
    pippen
    majerle
    derrick mckey
    eddie jones

    imagine if kobe's prime was in that ^ era.

    00/10s wing defenders 6'6 or taller that made an all defensive team.

    bowen
    christie
    kobe
    artest
    ak47
    prince
    battier
    lebron
    thabo
    g. wallace
    iggy
    deng
    pg13
    butler
    kawhi
    giannis
    dray
    danny green
    andre roberson
    robert covington
    klay

    instead of that ^ era.
    Already addressed this b.s. you left off plenty of players from 80/90 most likely because you have no knowledge of the game so you have no clue who they are

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    he's just great at making difficult shots

    but that also makes him easier to guard in a way because you know he's going to take those stupid shots over and over and over.

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    he has the same point per shot as jordan till his Achilles injury

    fg% doesn't mean everything

    /thread

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    A number of factors; being known as a ballhog, regularly taking very difficult and contested shots, actually being inefficient in all but one of his Finals, and having his most famous playoff performance be 6/24 will all add up to create that narrative.

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller789 View Post
    Whos dray?
    ........

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by expansionera View Post
    It’s not about the average height of a player but rather their capability, clearly Johnny32 demonstrates the capacity for 6’6+ wing defenders to make all defensive teams in the 00s/10s when defensive schemes became more sophisticated vs the iso heavy 90s wherein players were restricted on the defensive end
    Nah the only difference is offensively the nba became more perimeter focused so naturally perimeter defenders got more recognition. Defensive schemes weren't any different in the 2000's compared to the defensive schemes mj faced.

    Just look at what 40 year old shell of himself mj did on the wizards in this era. Shit he gave one of the best perimeter defenders of the 2000's the buisness and even he told you mj would destroy that era. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6YEfRBPc4

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Connor View Post
    he has the same point per shot as jordan till his Achilles injury

    fg% doesn't mean everything

    /thread
    explain

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by paksat View Post
    explain
    I'm assuming he's talking ts with the three ball factor but i don't think this true especially for post season.

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    I'm assuming he's talking ts with the three ball factor but i don't think this true especially for post season.
    I honestly wanna hear it, i'm intrigued

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamgine View Post
    Kobe was NOT inefficient in his percentage relative to the league's average. He was inefficient in a lot of his shot selection.

    Imagine Durant just forcing every shot and never pass. He'd still likely be above league average in efficiency but would be quite a bit lower than what it is now.
    This one cracks me up.
    Who is the all-time SG playoff assists number 1?
    Why don’t people make comments like this about Shaq? “He never pass” “he never shot 3s”
    Why do people expect a shooting guard to be a passer?
    What are Kobe’s 2 most iconic plays? The alley-oop to Shaq, and the pass for the 3 to Artest.
    and FWIW, Durant has a lower career assist rate than Kobe did.

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by paksat View Post
    I honestly wanna hear it, i'm intrigued
    Yeah be interesting to see what he says. Both bron and mj had better fg% and ts% than kobe in the post season. Haven't looked at the finals specifically but my guess is they're even more efficient than kobe in the finals compared to reg session or post season in general

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    Default Re: Why was Kobe infamously “inefficient?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    Yeah be interesting to see what he says. Both bron and mj had better fg% and ts% than kobe in the post season. Haven't looked at the finals specifically but my guess is they're even more efficient than kobe in the finals compared to reg session or post season in general
    That's an understatement Kobe was the least efficient ATG of the modern era in the Finals, at least of guys without a 1 or 2 series sample size.

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