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    Default How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Part of MJ's failures came from his weak longevity. He crumbled while playing without Pippen and in those 5 Pippenless years MJ did...nothing.

    0x Rings
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    If MJ had GOAT longevity like LeBron and was playing without Pip, how many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series? MJ played 13 playoffs, how much longevity does he need to get over 6,000 pts? LBJ did that in 13 playoffs already...

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Michael f'n Jordan

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELITEpower23 View Post
    Part of MJ's failures came from his weak longevity. He crumbled while playing without Pippen and in those 5 Pippenless years MJ did...nothing.

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    If MJ had GOAT longevity like LeBron and was playing without Pip, how many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series? MJ played 13 playoffs, how much longevity does he need to get over 6,000 pts? LBJ did that in 13 playoffs already...
    You do know youre contradicting your own argument again right?

    What a dumbass.

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    He’d need a stacked team, which is comical given all of his first round losses came on sub .500 squads which would indicate an extremely weak Eastern Conference

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Jeez, the daily Jordan meltdowns are turning into multiple daily.

    Considering LeManufactured/LeCollusion isn't even in the GOAT discussion, you should pick another player to start comparing him to...

    Loser

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by expansionera View Post
    He’d need a stacked team, which is comical given all of his first round losses came on sub .500 squads which would indicate an extremely weak Eastern Conference
    False. It was a top heavy conference.

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by expansionera View Post
    He’d need a stacked team, which is comical given all of his first round losses came on sub .500 squads which would indicate an extremely weak Eastern Conference
    It's a team sport. You only get far with a stacked team. Period. How do some of you not understand this? Look how well Lebum is doing this year with a crappy team. 1-9 Jordan at least led a far worse team to the playoffs.

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    It's a team sport. You only get far with a stacked team. Period. How do some of you not understand this? Look how well Lebum is doing this year with a crappy team. 1-9 Jordan at least led a far worse team to the playoffs.
    Even with their worst teams, Jordan's were far worse than Lebron's.

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    It's a team sport. You only get far with a stacked team. Period. How do some of you not understand this? Look how well Lebum is doing this year with a crappy team. 1-9 Jordan at least led a far worse team to the playoffs.
    None of those teams went .500, making the playoffs in a weak era wherein sub .500 teams routinely make the playoffs and losing in the first round is more of an embarrassment if anything. It demonstrates the level of competition Jordan was losing to 1-9

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Since we have determined longevity = good

    MJ played 5 years without Pip. How many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series?

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELITEpower23 View Post
    Since we have determined longevity = good

    MJ played 5 years without Pip. How many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series?

    Giannis, Lebron, Curry and Durant didn't win a playoff series in their first few years either, so it's a timing thing and has nothing to do with Pippen.. you're just weaponizing the coincidence that the only years MJ didn't play with Pippen are the years that nearly EVERYONE loses, aka weak

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELITEpower23 View Post
    Since we have determined longevity = good

    MJ played 5 years without Pip. How many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series?

    Giannis, Lebron, Curry and Durant didn't win a playoff series in their first few years either, so it's a timing thing and has nothing to do with Pippen.. you're just weaponizing the coincidence that the only years MJ didn't play with Pippen are the years that nearly EVERYONE loses, aka bad argument

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELITEpower23 View Post
    Since we have determined longevity = good

    MJ played 5 years without Pip. How many more seasons would MJ need to win ONE playoff series?
    Giannis, Lebron, Curry and Durant didn't win a playoff series in their first few years either, so it's a timing thing and has nothing to do with Pippen.. you're just weaponizing the coincidence that the only years MJ didn't play with Pippen are the years that nearly EVERYONE loses, aka weak argument

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by expansionera View Post
    None of those teams went .500, making the playoffs in a weak era wherein sub .500 teams routinely make the playoffs and losing in the first round is more of an embarrassment if anything. It demonstrates the level of competition Jordan was losing to 1-9
    Try to spin it how you want, but 1-9 Jordan had a FAR worse team than Labrone has this year, and Jordan still managed to do more with them.

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    Default Re: How much longevity would MJ need to get a 1st rd win without Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller789 View Post
    You do know youre contradicting your own argument again right?

    What a dumbass.
    You know what else is contradictory?
    When you claim not to be a Jordan stan

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