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On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
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MJ and KD cancel each other for the purposes of this discussion:
Curry > Pippen
Dray > Rodman
Klay, Iggy, Barnes, Bogut > Kukoc
Conclusion: the method the 96' Bulls would use to beat the 17' Warriors is the same method as always - have MJ carry the team
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Harper (all defensive 1st team)
Pippen (best defender in history)
Rodman (x2 defensive player of the year)
Toni Kukoc (Hall of Fame)
Let’s be honest, the strategy was to have a better defender than Jordan lock up the opponents best player while Pippen creates easy looks for Jordan who takes all the credit. If Jordan’s Bulls win the series it have little to do with MJ’s scoring and everything to do with his teammates best in league ability to slow down opposing players
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
6'6 or taller all defensive caliber wing defenders mj would face vs the 2017 gsw...3.
6'6 or taller all defensive caliber wing defenders mj faced in his entire playoff career...2.
warriors in 4.
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Those Bulls wouldn't know what hit them if you put them on the court against those Warriors, who shot 2-3 times as many 3 pointers as their opponents while also hitting those 3s at a higher percentage.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Imagine those Warriors playing with the shortened 3 point line
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Originally Posted by expansionera
Harper (all defensive 1st team)
Pippen (best defender in history)
Rodman (x2 defensive player of the year)
Toni Kukoc (Hall of Fame)
Let’s be honest, the strategy was to have a better defender than Jordan lock up the opponents best player while Pippen creates easy looks for Jordan who takes all the credit. If Jordan’s Bulls win the series it have little to do with MJ’s scoring and everything to do with his teammates best in league ability to slow down opposing players
DPOY VOTING
1988.... MJ (1st).... Pip (none)
1989.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1990.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1991.... MJ (7th).... Pip (7th)
1992.... MJ (3rd).... Pip (3rd)
1993.... MJ (2nd)... Pip (none)
1996.... MJ (5th).... Pip (2nd)
1997.... MJ (5th).... Pip (4th)
1998.... MJ (4th).... Pip (9th)
93' Jordan was clearly viewed as the Bulls' best defender, and even the LEAGUE'S:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GilQsS3oifM&t=02m47s
Here's the exchange in the 91' Finals between Marv Albert and Mike Fratello when MJ gets his 2nd foul in Game 2:
^^^ this sentiment was echoed by the NBA in the Bulls' Championship Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeAUz2dZ_NQ&t=35m03s
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
If the 96 Bulls won it’d be because they dominated on the glass and bothered Curry enough to throw him off.
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
mj was the worst starting defender (def rating) on his team in the 96-98 finals.
facts > fangirl reputation votes
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Didn't they get pushed to the brink by Payton/Kemp?
4-0 easy sweep for the Warriors
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I go HAM
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
The media sucked Jordan’s dick regardless of his actual impact on the court? You don’t say
Jordan was the best perimeter defender in the league which is why Pippen guarded Magic Johnson on a Lakers team that consisted of an injured James Worthy and no other top 350 guys
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
If the 96 Bulls won it’d be because they dominated on the glass and bothered Curry enough to throw him off.
Who can guard Curry??.. Pippen never guarded guys like that (short guys or screen-runners)
only jordan did
so Jordan would be the guy disrupting Curry just like he did Isiah, Dumars, or even Miller in 98' at 35 years old (17 on 40% for Miller).
So the Bulls would win with MJ carrying the defense and of course offense - that's how they always won
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Every single post OP makes supports one main fact about the Bulls success.
They won so many titles in the 90's because it was an extremely weak era...that's basically it. Everyone on the Bulls sucked except MJ, yet the Bulls dominated their comp because the comp was even worse.
Of course the 17 Warriors demolish the 96 Bulls...but that doesn't mean MJ wouldn't be the best player in that series.
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Originally Posted by 3ba11
Who can guard Curry??.. Pippen never guarded guys like that (short guys or screen-runners)
only jordan did
so Jordan would be the guy disrupting Curry just like he did Isiah, Dumars, or even Miller in 98' at 35 years old (17 on 40% for Miller).
So the Bulls would win with MJ carrying the defense and of course offense - that's how they always won
It’d be a team effort but yea I’d assume Jordan would be the primary with Harper and Pippen supplementing.
Pippen would be with KD primarily.
But they’d also win by dominating on the glass. That was the biggest factor against Seattle and the difference would be even more stark against GS.
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Re: On paper, the 17' Warriors demolish the 96' Bulls
Originally Posted by StrongLurk
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They won so many titles in the 90's because it was an extremely weak
Or the era was infact strong and Jordan simply won 6 "dirk" rings with a weak cast
The stats support this by showing lower stats for his teammates and bigger gaps between teammates and Jordan than Dirk and his teammates, or even 94' Hakeem and his teammates...
There's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st option and teammates than MJ and his cast
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