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    Default Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    For those who think I’m exaggerating, take a look at the following information


    2020 Lakers: 60 win pace for an 82 game season, championship

    2021 Lakers: 55 win pace when LeBron played (this includes games AD missed). Obviously they lost in the first round but they were up before AD got hurt and had an excellent shot at repeating if they had been healthy

    2022 Lakers: 40 win pace. Even with LeBron they’re only winning at a 42 win pace, so can’t really blame him being out that much. Granted AD has been out too and that has killed their defense. Now it’s quite possibly LeBron is just that much less impactful now, but the easier conclusion to draw is that the guy who’s barely shooting over 50% TS% and struggling to maintain an ORTG over 100, plays hideously bad defense and has dreadful RAPTOR ratings but somehow is given huge minutes and a huge role is the one turning an elite team into a mediocre one. Westbrook was a good player in his prime (although that was years ago at this point) but a combination of the league changing and his athleticism and skills diminishing has made him dogshit.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    What about 2019?

    In the end, whilst Westbrook isn't great, this team is going nowhere without AD...like it never has.

    2020 wasn't real, either

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Hopefully Nunn comes back soon. That will give Vogel the opportunity to bench him for 5-10 minutes extra per game.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    Hopefully Nunn comes back soon. That will give Vogel the opportunity to bench him for 5-10 minutes extra per game.
    That isn’t enough. He shouldn’t play at all. Nunn is MASSIVELY better than him, he should get all his minutes. Nunn isn’t even great but he’s solid. At least he was last year.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    you realize AD is not there?

    You're basically adding Russ to the 2019 team

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    you realize AD is not there?

    You're basically adding Russ to the 2019 team
    They weren’t world beaters with AD either. Starting WB is like playing with a chain around your leg.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    LeGM tho

    Le200IQ tho

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    westbrook had 0 turnovers again!

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    The Lakers are screwed regardless if Lebron or AD are injured. It really is that simple.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    That scuffle with Gordon is the most embarrassing thing Iíve seen in my life, Westbrook is officially washed

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    The Lakers have systemic issues that go well beyond Westbrook sucking. Benching Westbrook won't make the Lakers competitive. They need to fix their atrocious defense and lack of team cohesion.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Nope - Lebron just has to resort to a Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton/MJ style OFF-BALL, which allows both Lebron and Westbrook to achieve their max production - with both guys getting their expected production, the Lakers'would be the dominant favorite that everyone expected.

    Unfortunately.... is this thing on??? (tap tap)... The bum can't play off-ball!!!!!!!!!! That's the problem - Lebron can't play off-ball.... Bad fit = skill deficit

    Heck, everyone did better with Westbrook than LeBallDominate, including KD, PG13 and Harden - they all won more with Westbrick
    Last edited by 3ba11; 01-16-2022 at 11:15 AM.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    They don't even play bron ball.

    Cohesion and roles is an issue.

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Quote Originally Posted by PP34Deuce View Post
    They don't even play bron ball.

    Cohesion and roles is an issue.

    Lebron is a frontcourt player that holds the ball a point guard amount

    This trait is singular to Lebron (frontcourt ball-dominance)

    So if people can't see that this is why Lebron's team is performing worse with Westbrook than anyone else did (Beal, Harden, PG13, and KD won more with Westbrook), then they don't understand the game at a sufficient level to properly assess what's going on

    Lebron's frontcourt ball-dominance has ALWAYS been inherently suboptimal, which is why he couldn't develop organic chemistry to win and always needed super-team help (more help than anyone else needed).

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    Default Re: Westbrook has to be benched for the Lakers to be remotely competitive

    Westbrook leads the league in turnovers, is ranked bottom five in the entire league for volume jumpshooters, has a NEGATIVE BPM, and has the ball more than anyone on the Lakers...I think he can turn it around a little bit but yeah he is pretty washed. The eye test is horrible for him as well.

    Really though Westbrook is just part of the issue...the other issue is AD/Lebron missing too many games due to injury, and the Lakers themselves being extremely old in a league that plays fast.

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